The "Really ?!?!?!?!" Thread
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Accumulator
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Eh, a lot of stuff from AP sounds more like editorializing than reportage these days, but that`s still kinda surprising.
Did the article go on to offer a rationale for "should not" or explain why it`s "not an easy call"?
Did the article go on to offer a rationale for "should not" or explain why it`s "not an easy call"?
Ronkh
Wax Waster
nope
Accumulator
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Aw gee....whatever happened to objective reporting?
Ronkh
Wax Waster
That ended 20 years ago. It`s easier and has more purpose based outcome when people are spoon fed information in the form of pre determined/desired vision.
Accumulator
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Simultaneously, the quality of the writing has plummeted, which I sometimes suspect is a case of playing to the Audience..mustn`t condescend to the sheeple by being grammatical.
Bunky
Detailing Gnosis
The quality has dropped but think the speed has increased. When you actually write, you may be a bit more careful since you can just backward or rework on the fly. Just think some of Trump`s tweets will end up in history books...
trashmanssd
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I always marvel at how well executed handwritten letters were way back when- artful use of language, proper spelling, no corrections and gorgeous penmanship. The TIME that took...and this was back when folks didn`t have today`s leisure time.
I just hope it doesn`t normalize the [stuff] he says and/or the way he says it. "Oh, it`s OK...even the President talks like that."
Ronkh
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Grammar privileged.........
Accumulator
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Heh heh, I knew I was guilty of something 
Some languages don`t even make sense without rigorous adherence to their rules.
Some languages don`t even make sense without rigorous adherence to their rules.
Accumulator
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[sarcasm]Oh, that`s a Public Service, huh? Bet he only charges enough to cover the cost of printing it. Doing it for the Greater Good. [/sarcasm]
Some folks are gonna have to get a whole new shtick after the next POTUS gets in.
Some folks are gonna have to get a whole new shtick after the next POTUS gets in.
Angus
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I can`t believe this worked:
My little sister`s phone got stolen/lost a week ago. Yesterday, I got a strange text. Today, I peaked! - Album on Imgur
Fake or not, it`s too damn funny.
My little sister`s phone got stolen/lost a week ago. Yesterday, I got a strange text. Today, I peaked! - Album on Imgur
Fake or not, it`s too damn funny.
Ronkh
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h34r:Accumulator
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Heh heh, so Ms. Singer uses the expression "super chummy" and what, expects to be taken seriously!?!
Eh, the WSJ has been a mess since forever with regard to their reporters going off the rails. But why did Baker send out a bunch of what-do-you-expect-to-happen emails?!? Lousy way to run [anything] IMO. Whole place sounds like a mess, but eh, I quit reading it ages ago.
Eh, the WSJ has been a mess since forever with regard to their reporters going off the rails. But why did Baker send out a bunch of what-do-you-expect-to-happen emails?!? Lousy way to run [anything] IMO. Whole place sounds like a mess, but eh, I quit reading it ages ago.
Oneheadlite
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Rant: I hate my industry.
I`ve gone on about how I work at an independent BMW/Audi/mini shop. Since our focus is pretty small, people have come to assume we`re expensive. I`m trying to figure out where they get this from.
Example A: Had a customer who`s car broke down (E90 3 Series, Overheated - Electric water pump failed) in front of another do-all-makes shop. So, instead of a tow, they brought it there. That shop charged them 40% more for the job than we would have (and they used cheap chinese parts which failed several months later). They replaced the water pump and thermostat, which is common practive. But, they charged them labor to replace the thermostat, which you HAVE TO REMOVE TO DO THE WATER PUMP.
Example B: Another car (E90 3 Series) came to us after the owner had spent a "bunch of money" diagnosis a running problem at another shop. They provided the records of what they had done. They were completely off the scent of what the actual problem was, and were spending the customer`s money (over $1500) throwing parts at it.
Looking at the history, they had also been scalped on the water pump-thermostat double charge. During an oil change at 70k miles, they replaced the oil filter housing cap (sometimes they come apart). With a cheap chinese one, that they charged twice the price you would pay for one FROM THE DEALER. At 75,000 miles, 3 months later, they again charged the customer $70 for another cheap chinese filter housing cap - probably because the garbage 1st one came apart. What about your warranty? We do 2 year, 24k warranty on our parts and labor. Absolute robbery. :angry: They also replaced spark plugs, then replaced them again 20k later chasing a misfire (factory interval on those - 100k).
Example C: With the airbag recall, we get all sorts of people coming in wanting a second opinion after the dealer. Apparently oil pan gaskets must be the thing to do there - almost every car we see from them "Needs" an oil pan gasket. Most often, they`re a 3 on a 1-10 scale (10 being worst). Those guys should be ashamed of themselves.
I don`t mean to say there aren`t good mechanics at all varieties of places, but man the bad ones are bad.
The worst part is this garbage totally ruins the rest of life for me, because now any time I have to hire someone to do something I don`t have the talent or time to do (house stuff, etc), I`m stressed out worrying I`m going to get "those guys" instead of "our guys".
I`ve gone on about how I work at an independent BMW/Audi/mini shop. Since our focus is pretty small, people have come to assume we`re expensive. I`m trying to figure out where they get this from.
Example A: Had a customer who`s car broke down (E90 3 Series, Overheated - Electric water pump failed) in front of another do-all-makes shop. So, instead of a tow, they brought it there. That shop charged them 40% more for the job than we would have (and they used cheap chinese parts which failed several months later). They replaced the water pump and thermostat, which is common practive. But, they charged them labor to replace the thermostat, which you HAVE TO REMOVE TO DO THE WATER PUMP.
Example B: Another car (E90 3 Series) came to us after the owner had spent a "bunch of money" diagnosis a running problem at another shop. They provided the records of what they had done. They were completely off the scent of what the actual problem was, and were spending the customer`s money (over $1500) throwing parts at it.
Looking at the history, they had also been scalped on the water pump-thermostat double charge. During an oil change at 70k miles, they replaced the oil filter housing cap (sometimes they come apart). With a cheap chinese one, that they charged twice the price you would pay for one FROM THE DEALER. At 75,000 miles, 3 months later, they again charged the customer $70 for another cheap chinese filter housing cap - probably because the garbage 1st one came apart. What about your warranty? We do 2 year, 24k warranty on our parts and labor. Absolute robbery. :angry: They also replaced spark plugs, then replaced them again 20k later chasing a misfire (factory interval on those - 100k).
Example C: With the airbag recall, we get all sorts of people coming in wanting a second opinion after the dealer. Apparently oil pan gaskets must be the thing to do there - almost every car we see from them "Needs" an oil pan gasket. Most often, they`re a 3 on a 1-10 scale (10 being worst). Those guys should be ashamed of themselves.
I don`t mean to say there aren`t good mechanics at all varieties of places, but man the bad ones are bad.
The worst part is this garbage totally ruins the rest of life for me, because now any time I have to hire someone to do something I don`t have the talent or time to do (house stuff, etc), I`m stressed out worrying I`m going to get "those guys" instead of "our guys".
Accumulator
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Oneheadlite- That sounds like how the shops are around my area (and is why my Audi gets serviced over an hour away). I bet that 90% of the service invoices that came with my `93 were utterly fraudulent (including an engine-out over an oil leak they didn`t find/fix).
BUT as for the perception that your shop is pricey, I bet some good ads could help with that. Something that stressed how you do things so they`re cheaper overall, let alone in the long run.
BUT as for the perception that your shop is pricey, I bet some good ads could help with that. Something that stressed how you do things so they`re cheaper overall, let alone in the long run.
Tc99m
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Oneheadlite- My barbershop runs local ads and has a sign out side their shop. That they fix Great Clip hair cuts. :lol: