NattyBumppo
Strange name, ain't it?
ACosmetologist said:
I concur!
the hype with pc?
- Thread starter KleanFreak
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I concur!
vdubbya
Rochester Auto Spa
Does anyone here use the Cyclo polisher? The one with the dual r/o 4" pads. I have one and it works great. Any comments?
SITopShine
New member
WAZ UP DC I LOVE MY HIGH SPEED BABY and i have both. The pc i use to wax and polish new cars any thing else BAM THE HIGH SPEED!!! VDUBBY I have the cyclo its good for long runs and flat sufaces but not for anything rounded it and it's hard 2 work it . Its a paper weight right now lol and it does that skilles to use a high speed so becareful C-ya
JimS
Adopt a shelter pet!
Mechanics use Snap On not Craftsman. Same goes for the PC. Cheapo orbitals will not do the job. The PC will and without damage.
Well this thread is really getting heated up !! I would like to add some comments comming from someone who actually manufactures pads for both machines (PC and Rotary). I believe that you cannot achieve the same results with a PC than with the rotary. That is not to say the pc does not produce nice results. However the rotary action and the heat that it creates is what truly produces shine, blends scratches by re-gelling the paint, breaks down the new generation of compounds and polishes that are made to dissapate with heat and friction, quickly,efficiently , and totally removes wet sand marks, and levels the painted surface. The pc simply does not. The pc is fine for applying wax and glaze and removing it without and fear of creating swirl marks, or burning the paint because it creates almost no heat. No matter how long you leave the PC also known as a DA (or dual action) it will not burn, but it will also not level paint. Thefitter's comments above that the PC is a sanding machine are totally true. That machine is made to be an orbital sander not a polishing machine. It has found a nice nitch as a fool proof waxing machine that makes applying and removing wax much less a manual effort, but it does not take the place of a true rotary high speed buffer in the hands of a skilled detailer.
andriver
Detailing Hobbyist
Hey Edge, thanks for the informative post.
So that’s what it’s called…”blends scratches by re-gelling the paint”... thanks The Edge. I knew that this was what was happening but I did not know the proper terminology.
You know I’m really disappointed that no one commented on my “baby RO” idea.
:lmfao
Am I really the only one that hates to do all that fine handwork on the narrow sections of the body panels? It just kills my carpel tunnel.
Peace:cool
You know I’m really disappointed that no one commented on my “baby RO” idea.
:lmfao Am I really the only one that hates to do all that fine handwork on the narrow sections of the body panels? It just kills my carpel tunnel.
Peace:cool
kimwallace
New member
I have to question some of the comments made by "The Edge"
1. If the PC has no cutting qualities as indicated by the comments that the PC cannot remove wet sand marks or level the paint, then why are there so many different pads made for the PC that call themselves "Cutting Pads, Polishing Pads, Finishing Pads" or whatever name you want to apply to them. Are we to then assume that we should only use one pad?
2. I have used a rotary for many years on all types of paint and what I have found is that when the paint becomes hot enough to "regell" that is when the burn marks and imperfections are caused in the paint.
3. There are many things a PC will not do but I have personally used it to completely remove wet sanding marks. It was definitely not as fast a process as using my rotary, however do to the location on the car it was safer that the rotary and much quicker than rubbing the marks out by hand. (which I have done many times.
4. I personally would not polish my car on a monthly basis with a rotary because of all the reasons that make it such a good tool (paint leveling or removal in a very fast, efficient manner) for its intended purpose. The car would probably be without paint in a few areas. I will however use the PC on a regular basis because it removes minimal paint and keeps the finish looking good.
5. For me It comes down to this ... The PC makes easier work of most of the fine detail work I used to do by hand and it is a companion tool to the rotary for the dangerous areas.
This is just one persons opinion (mine) and thankfully we can all have one!
1. If the PC has no cutting qualities as indicated by the comments that the PC cannot remove wet sand marks or level the paint, then why are there so many different pads made for the PC that call themselves "Cutting Pads, Polishing Pads, Finishing Pads" or whatever name you want to apply to them. Are we to then assume that we should only use one pad?
2. I have used a rotary for many years on all types of paint and what I have found is that when the paint becomes hot enough to "regell" that is when the burn marks and imperfections are caused in the paint.
3. There are many things a PC will not do but I have personally used it to completely remove wet sanding marks. It was definitely not as fast a process as using my rotary, however do to the location on the car it was safer that the rotary and much quicker than rubbing the marks out by hand. (which I have done many times.
4. I personally would not polish my car on a monthly basis with a rotary because of all the reasons that make it such a good tool (paint leveling or removal in a very fast, efficient manner) for its intended purpose. The car would probably be without paint in a few areas. I will however use the PC on a regular basis because it removes minimal paint and keeps the finish looking good.
5. For me It comes down to this ... The PC makes easier work of most of the fine detail work I used to do by hand and it is a companion tool to the rotary for the dangerous areas.
This is just one persons opinion (mine) and thankfully we can all have one!