I use them as well as the Edge 2000 flat pads. I think they're a nice pad. I've stated my opinion of the Edge pad so many times people probably think I sell them (I don't). I really like these pads and don't use my hook and loop set ups at all anymore. I've got dozens of LC and Meguiar's pads sitting on the shelf now, many unopened. My son will inherit the hook and loop set up. Edge just makes it too easy, the pads are always centered and it's so slick to just flip the pad over and grab another compound or wax. Would I go out of my way to get the wave's instead of a regular Edge pad? Probably not but I wouldn't send them back if they were mistakenly sent my way. They really make a PC easy to steer (not that it's hard otherwise) and seem to have a little more bite compared to their same color counter part. That's all I got to say bout' that.