The Edge system for PC

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kleraudio

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hey guys, i was just at the Edge website checking out the edge pad system. It says that if you dont center your pads on your pc you are wasting time and not accomplishing anything? Is this true?



it says "no tiresome, wasteful off-center buffing"



now there is no way ive been centering my pads correctly everytime, is this a sales tactic or does off center buffing reduce performance?



what is the margin of error, what i mean is, if its a "little" off center, does it make a difference?



thanks



Jim
 
No need to worry about centering pads on a pc. Now if you had a rotary then centering would be an issue.
 
Yeah, I agree. It *might* make for issues if you were *really* off-center, but I've never had a problem with it.



IMO it's just ad-copy hyperbole, making a big deal out of how the E2K system self-centers. Not that it's not a nice feature...I'll probably switch to their stuff if/when I ever use up all my current pads.
 
If you're way off-center on the rotary, its tough to control. Never had a problem being "slightly" off-center or the PC or 9227. Sometimes it takes me a couple tries to center the pad the way I like it... so I guess that might be an advantage timewise.
 
I do think the edge pads vibrate slightly less than a standard velcro bp and pad on a PC, but there's not really a functional difference otherwise.
 
Just don't stock up on a scad of non-Edge pads in the meantime ;) I'd like to go Edge on my rotaries, Cyclos, and PCs, but I already have a zillion velcro-backed pads.
 
Actually, it does matter if you're centered on a PC. Just because the action of the machine doesn't spin like a rotary doesn't mean that being balanced is an afterthought.



In fact, it's just the opposite. The machine was designed to be perfectly balanced. Why do you think they designed it with the counterweight. And as you know, the counterweight changes based on the size of the backing plate.



The counterweight spins perfectly around the center shaft. If something is offcenter there is now undue stress on the machine which will prematurely wear the bearings and strain the motor.



If your pad and/or backing plate isn't centered or weighted properly that machine is not functioning the way it is designed. Not to mention the excess wear and tear on your arms fighting the vibrations.



It's not just "clever marketing" where the E2K system for the PC is concerned, there is actually a distinct, functional advantage to work in tandem with the way the PC is meant to run.
 
It's nothing to worry about really. It's not like your PC is going to blow up on you if you're off-center a bit. Theoretically, the Edge system isn't "perfectly centered" either, just a little closer than you centering your pads yourself.
 
I love my edge pads but if I could change one thing about them I wish the embedded backing plate was a bit "softer" more flexible.
 
kleraudio said:
Yea I think when i finally muster up the courage and get my rotary I will also pick up the Edge system.

Jim
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The rotary isn't that bad man, although it is a bit humbling at first. Just take it slow and pay very close attention. I used it for the first time on a black car I once had that was swirled something fierce and this is how it came out



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Not the best pics, but hopefully you get the point.



I was quite humbled at how finicky the rotary was, but it nowhere near as intimidating as I expected, although I was admittedly humbled by the experience. Now that I've moved up in both product/supplies and experience, i'm pretty confident in my rotary abilites.



I think once you've used it, you'll overcome your hesitance in using and will realize how valuable of a tool it is to have in your arsenal.
 
sauld said:
Actually, it does matter if you're centered on a PC. Just because the action of the machine doesn't spin like a rotary doesn't mean that being balanced is an afterthought.



In fact, it's just the opposite. The machine was designed to be perfectly balanced. Why do you think they designed it with the counterweight. And as you know, the counterweight changes based on the size of the backing plate.



The counterweight spins perfectly around the center shaft. If something is offcenter there is now undue stress on the machine which will prematurely wear the bearings and strain the motor.



If your pad and/or backing plate isn't centered or weighted properly that machine is not functioning the way it is designed. Not to mention the excess wear and tear on your arms fighting the vibrations.



It's not just "clever marketing" where the E2K system for the PC is concerned, there is actually a distinct, functional advantage to work in tandem with the way the PC is meant to run.
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I see the logic in your statement, but I don't think it's the difference between your machine lasting 10 years or 2. While it may very well cause extra vibration and/or wear and tear, I don't believe it's so dramatic that one should lose sleep trying to center the pad perfectly.



Along the same lines, it baffles me why companies sell the PC in a package containing nothing but 6.5" pads while the PC is equipped with a counter weight that clearly states "for use with 5" pads only." I'd imagine that causes the same amount of unnecessary wear and tear and vibration as using a pad that's slightly off centered.
 
rkf76 said:
Along the same lines, it baffles me why companies sell the PC in a package containing nothing but 6.5" pads while the PC is equipped with a counter weight that clearly states "for use with 5" pads only.
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Simply put, the PC was NOT designed to be used as a car polisher. The weight installed has little to no impact on the vibration when using a backing plate/pad combo.
 
SpoiledMan said:
Simply put, the PC was NOT designed to be used as a car polisher. The weight installed has little to no impact on the vibration when using a backing plate/pad combo.
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so why would PC make counter weights for 5" and 6" pads?
 
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