The dirty face of plagiarism...

1 Clean WS6

1 Clean WS6

Detailing Rottweiler
I thought my fellow full-time guys would get a kick out of this.



Verbiage from my website...



• All prices subject to the condition of the vehicle. We will let you know before we

start the job if a surcharge will be added.

• Don't see a Protection Package that you like? Ask us and we will custom design a

package for you!

• In addition to our regular detail services, we offer custom paint detail services,

including clay bar application and multi-stage polish, glaze and sealant packages

for high end and car show quality vehicles. Prices start from $175 and up. Ask us

and we will give you a free quote.

• Not all carpet stains or deep paint scratches can be removed. Please point out a

problem area before we start a job and we will let you know if the defect is is

repairable or not.

• We predominantly use the Meguiar's© quality line of compounds, glazes and

sealants. We do, however, stock many different detailing product lines. Ask us and

we will use whatever product line you prefer (if we have it in inventory) on your

vehicle.





Verbiage from the plagiarist website...



*Prices are subject to change based upon the condition of the vehicle.

*Based upon the depth and severity of some scratches, not all of them can be removed.

*Due to the nature of different types of stains, not all of them are able to be removed from the carpet and upholstery.

* We use only the highest quality, longest lasting products which produce a high luster finish (Meguires, Clearkote, Zaino)



Notice not only the similarity of the wording but the order in which the bullet points fall and it is clear what the person was looking at when they were written. He did forget to copy the correct spelling of Meguiar's though. ;)



There is a whole back story to this and it is not the first time this person has done something like this to me. I just thought that this was cute. :dance
 
Similar to mine too (yeah, needs a product update!):



We use the highest quality surface care and interior cleaning and protectant products available. We use Meguiars professional level paint cleaners, polishes and waxes and interior protectants. In addition, we also use fine products from Clearkote, Poorboy's, Klasse, Pinnacle, Wolfgang and Protect All.



While detailing can make a dramatic improvement in a vehicle's appearance, it cannot correct deep scratches or peeling clear coats, and some interior stains may be permanent. Swirl and buffer marks can be removed or dramatically reduced in most cases. We also use clay detailing when needed to remove imbedded dirt and paint overspray. We can also remove most paint oxidation as well. Only a complete visual inspection can determine what defects can be corrected and those that cannot. Because vehicle conditions can vary greatly, our pricing policy is a only a general guideline.
 
There are only so many ways in which one can say same simple thing in simple sentence. Is it really plagiarism?
 
You gotta love it.



These two are kind of local to me. They stole copy from my site.



Over 6 others have been found as well.



Check these out -



www. barrydetailing.com/Services.htm



www. sparklesautodetailing.com/



Straight from my site, I wrote that copy over 6 years ago.



If they see nothing wrong with stealing pictures and or copy they see nothing wrong with stealing items out of a car.
 
Superior Fine said:
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If they see nothing wrong with stealing pictures and or copy they see nothing wrong with stealing items out of a car.
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And if that's not bad enough, we have to deal with professional detailing publications stealing pictures of our work and printing them as their own :mad:
 
ZoranC said:
There are only so many ways in which one can say same simple thing in simple sentence. Is it really plagiarism?
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my thoughts exactly. Maybe the original poster should explain this "back story" because personally, I don't think this is plagiarism. Now if the guy used your pictures and copied word for word, then yes that becomes plagiarism.



Here's an example:

Best Buy's In-store return policy

BestBuy.com Help: <Topic>



Circuit City's In-store return policy

In-store returns-Returns & Exchanges-circuitcity.com



These return policies are VERY similar. Does that mean Best Buy plagiarized Circuit City's return policy or vice versa? No! There's only so many ways to say certain things. Not only that, but by having similar return policies, the consumers will know what to expect. Costco's unconditional guarantee on everything is now coming back to bite them in the @$$ to the point where they had to change the policy (for those not in California and has not seen the change in the Electronics return policy at Costco, look for it next month when it will take effect in your state.)



So even if he used your site as the basis for his, I see no harm in it when he used his own words. Almost always, you'll have competition in the business world. I'm sure if you started looking at others' websites on here on mobile auto detailing, you will find many similarities. That doesn't mean they plagiarized your site. I'm sure there have been others before you that have said the same exact thing you've said in your site... in different words of course.
 
I agree there are only so many ways to phrase some things but the tipoff with this is how they are ordered. Nevermind that the wording and style they are printed in is so very similar.



If you look at Scott's wording and mine it is clear that we are saying the exact same thing but it is also clear that I was not looking at his copy when I had my site designed.



Long backstory of which I care not to get into. BELIEVE me when I say that he used my site (heck...my entire business model) to create his.



Here is another example of his plagiaristic capabilites...



There is an established mobile guy in my area (started circa '03) he is a friend and does excellent work. Not to name names so I'll call his business "Clean Car Detailing". We'll our copying buddy goes to the county business office (circa '06) to apply for a business license and the name "Clean Car Detailing" since the name is already taken he applies for...and gets..."Clean Cars Detailing". How original.



Bryan...no...it's not our favorite buddy though this guy is indeed in GA. In some regard I respect him more than this person because he at least had an original thought with the whole "magic" thing and all.
 
I don't doubt that what you're saying is true, but what more can you really do with the guy? I'm no lawyer, but I would say that it would be a hard case to prove in court that he plagiarized your site, assuming your site is copyright protected.



This seems like one of those situations where there's not much you can do other than ignore it. Don't let someone that dumb irk you. They say imitation is the biggest form of flattery. Consider it a compliment. In the end, your expertise, your professionalism, and the quality of your work will truly speak for itself. You'll always know who the better man/detailer is :)
 
BlackElantraGT said:
I don't doubt that what you're saying is true, but what more can you really do with the guy? I'm no lawyer, but I would say that it would be a hard case to prove in court that he plagiarized your site, assuming your site is copyright protected.



This seems like one of those situations where there's not much you can do other than ignore it. Don't let someone that dumb irk you. They say imitation is the biggest form of flattery. Consider it a compliment. In the end, your expertise, your professionalism, and the quality of your work will truly speak for itself. You'll always know who the better man/detailer is :)
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Couldn't agree more...Don't this this is really a case of plagiarism at all. No one is going to look at your descriptions and say "Oh man these to businesses do the exact same thing, but this guy does it for a lower price" you're results will speak for itself.
 
Yes my site is copyrighted.



And yes you are both right there is nothing I can nor was there anything I wanted to do. I'm just venting. :grinno:
 
Superior Fine said:
If they see nothing wrong with stealing pictures and or copy they see nothing wrong with stealing items out of a car.
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I feel you are making quite a stretch in jump to that conclusion there.
 
Without wanting to get into what is very emotional discussion I would like to point out few pieces of reality check here:



1) Many restaurant menus describe same meal in same or similar way. You can't make so many variations on cheeseburger as you can do on love and even love songs are not saying anything new for last thousands and thousands of years.



2) Many restaurants menus order meals in same or similar order. Chicken first, then beef, then pork, then seafood. Unless you are in seafood only restaurant.



3) We are not talking works of Shakespeare here. Is it even a local competition? I would worry more about quality of my own work.
 
ZoranC said:
I feel you are making quite a stretch in jump to that conclusion there.
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Believe me, there are several people who have used my pictures and represented them as their own work. Some stole, word for word, the Detailing EDU I wrote for another board (and posted here) and spent more than a few hours working on. People like that cannot be trusted.
 
Scottwax said:
Believe me, there are several people who have used my pictures and represented them as their own work.
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I believe you plus I do remember that. However, if I remember correctly, they didn't do it (at least one of them) to profit financially but to decorate themselves with somebody else's feathers. It is a stretch to say they would steal.



Way I look at it, some other detailer on other side of a nation borrowing idea on detailing menu? Annoying, yes, irritating, yes, making me PO, yes, huge deal in the bottom line, no because he didn't kick any money out of my hand. Now, if that was guy in same town that is competing with me then it would be a huge deal.
 
Scottwax said:
Believe me, there are several people who have used my pictures and represented them as their own work. Some stole, word for word, the Detailing EDU I wrote for another board (and posted here) and spent more than a few hours working on. People like that cannot be trusted.
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Scott hope this was reported to the Autopia PTB and some BAD Karma dished out!
 
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