That BMW paint again... 750iL

RyanDe680

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I am working on a 750iL right now.... Car is approximately 11 years old.



Here's what I am dealing with:



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I have put about 8 hours into it, and here are some results. I will finish up the rest tonight with more pics to follow...



Man does BMW clear take a beating on a human :buffing: :hairpull:



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Hood shot to show damage:



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I feel your pain... one of my guys brought in a 1997 740i in black and it was about the most miserable buff job I've ever had to do. Took 12 hours, HTEC/wool, OP/orange foam, P0106FF/green foam. Came out amazing.
 
Black cars that are like that will take long time to do them right. I do a lot of black cars and I know how much of a pain it is. Actually it seems like all I do is black cars lately.



Looks very good so far and you are doing a great job. What's your process?
 
Black cars that are like that will take long time to do them right. I do a lot of black cars and I know how much of a pain it is. Actually it seems like all I do is black cars lately.

Remember when they look good under halogens, they will look amazing outside.



Looks very good so far and you are doing a great job. What's your process?
 
For now, I am using SSR2.5 on a blue pad, followed by OP on a green pad. Seems to do the trick.



I am wondering if I could follow this up with 106ff, even after the OP (I know) to get that glossy shine....



I might try the 106ff with a blue (or green??) pad to see what comes about.... :nixweiss
 
Ryan: you might want to give 3M Ultrafina SE (Swirl Eliminator) a try. Be sure to get their light blue foam pad (rotary use). It's pretty "oily", but does a nice job as the finished product before your final wax.



Here's a 530i that had horrible swirls and pics of the finished car. I'm just about to finish a 745i Sport Package (black, of course) and will post those results as well.



Before (condition was like this for the entire car)



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In process..on the back-saving lift!



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Outside shot finished



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Toto
 
Toto I have been considering checking out 3M products, especially the Ultra SE. I have read a bunch of people using it with successes. By being oily, do you have difficulty in removing it? How is the work time?



That lift is the best thing since sliced bread for a detailer. Man, I envy you now, after almost being finished with the 7, that would have been my best friend.
 
orngez said:
im surprised you are using a polishing pad first and a cutting pad second....



Tried it. It didn't produce the results I wanted. The green Edge pad works both ways and using something like SSR2.5, I didn't want to go too harsh from the get go.



I am just wondering what a final coat of 106ff would do to the surface now.... :think2:
 
IMO you need to remove the defects before going to a light polish...especially on hard paint like a BMW...I tried getting the surface close enough and hoped the light polish would clean up the remaining defects on a light blue BMW...NO GO....had to break out the compound one more time, then polish...that was a long day
 
RyanDe680 said:
Toto I have been considering checking out 3M products, especially the Ultra SE. I have read a bunch of people using it with successes. By being oily, do you have difficulty in removing it? How is the work time?



That lift is the best thing since sliced bread for a detailer. Man, I envy you now, after almost being finished with the 7, that would have been my best friend.



Ryan: the Ultrafina SE is a fairly short work-time product (about 4 light passes in a work area like a door panel). 3M has a how-to video (holler if you want a link). The product is somewhat oily and will sling drops of oil on neighboring panels, but that wipes right up. It's easy to buff lightly with a mf towel.



You're right about that lift! The dealer has a bad back and that's the reason he got the lift originally: oil changes, brake pads, etc. But it's a wonderful tool for detailing. I usually start at the bottom panels because they are plastic for the most part, and lower the lift to do doors, etc. My final is hood/trunk/roof and I'm done.



Toto
 
Totoland Mach said:
Ryan: the Ultrafina SE is a fairly short work-time product (about 4 light passes in a work area like a door panel). 3M has a how-to video (holler if you want a link). The product is somewhat oily and will sling drops of oil on neighboring panels, but that wipes right up. It's easy to buff lightly with a mf towel.



You're right about that lift! The dealer has a bad back and that's the reason he got the lift originally: oil changes, brake pads, etc. But it's a wonderful tool for detailing. I usually start at the bottom panels because they are plastic for the most part, and lower the lift to do doors, etc. My final is hood/trunk/roof and I'm done.



Toto



Thanks Toto. I sent you a PM.
 
IMO 106ff should knock out the remaining defects left by a heavier cut polish and finish out very nice, especially on black using a rotary. On a black vette after using EC/OP with a yellow LC pad, I can go down to a exceldetail green P2 pad w/ the 106ff.



Give the 106ff a try in one area and see what you think.
 
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