Teaser of the Year!

I do not think that this little puke faced punk will be showing his face around much anymore. I was reading some of his other crap where he proclaims himself to be "the finest detailer the world has to offer" this kid is either mentally retarded or has ba11s the size of pumpkins. Watch his videos on youtube if you want to learn what NOT to do. He comes into this country with no work visa, wrecks one car that we know of, rips the guy off and takes work away from American detailers. Hey Holden...

KEEP YOUR A$$ OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND AWAY FROM OUR CARS!
 
Oh my God! That is so pathetic! It's beyond me how that window trim got burned? He didn't need to be anywhere close to that edge. All that polish splattered/left if those sections make it clear that Tyler is is not a Pro and lacks some major experience.
 
Apollo_Auto said:
Although I've not tried it yet, I've read that peanut butter will at least take out the white stains somewhat... maybe worth a try before replacing the whole thing. Just a thought :)
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There is no polish residue remaining, the 'white' is the reflection of the flash. In person the burned areas are 'clean' but they feel like shredded felt, if that makes sense. They are also noticably lower in height then the un burned trim, like they where grinded on. With no flash the area is many shades ligher in color then the undamaged trim. It is ruined.
 
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How in the hell did he manage to do that...?



Why was the buffer even near that trim?



I also see he did an excellent job on the jambs too. :down
 
the bottom line here is no one is perfect, i think we all have made a mistake at one point in out career. simply put the lesson here is in my eyes this is a typical example to all those out there who lack exsperaince to step up and do this to someones car. throughout my career i have learned from mistakes, but i also had the integrity to step up and say sir i apologize but this is what happened? how would you like to resolve this? im just blown away at the lack of laziness that this kid provides. to leave residue in jambs and moldings and all the crevices like that is simply unprofessional. im wondering if this kid used detail spray of somesort to hide the residue or he was just to f'n lazy to do his job! you can see the pull marks from the wool pad in that one pic. this can be avoided easily "spurring your pad" lol easy up on pressure! i would like to personally take this time to thank tyler and his company apollo detailing in canada to once again ruining a true detailers image! many of us on here take our time and produce amazing results, and truly dedicate our lives to this profession. this kid here makes it harder for us to find work. i wish the owner of this vehicle the best of luck. i'm hoping that since you got them photos todd maybe you can step up and prove to this guy were are not all hacks. if its not already talked about. hopefully tyler can step up to the plate and apologize and make things right with that molding! all in all let the truth be told!!!!!
 
David Fermani said:
Oh my God! That is so pathetic! It's beyond me how that window trim got burned? He didn't need to be anywhere close to that edge. All that polish splattered/left if those sections make it clear that Tyler is is not a Pro and lacks some major experience.
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I'll tell you how it got burned...



Pros know what they are doing. Hacks (like me) have no idea, but hacks can learn, if we are willing to learn. However, everytime he posted a new video and one of you pros gave him CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, he would just brush it off, like "sorry but we just do it differently".



Fine, different strokes for different folks but not always. You and I might disagree on which LSP looks best, but we call all agree that claying a car with a ring on your hand *might* not be the best idea. We can all agree that using a rotary at 3000rpm in the same spot for 20 seconds is not the way to use a rotary.



The reality is this, there are TONS of threads here about detailing a Lambo. If he had followed those thread he probably would have had less problems, but his ego never allowed him to really learn.
 
I clay with my ring on all the time. :eek: Reading threads doesn't make you a better detailer. Becoming a proficient detailer requires years of hands on experience. Nobody I know of became a pro from reading forums. After learning things here, they still need a certain amount of touch time to perfect. The last thing I'd ever suggest someone wanting to learn how to detail a Lambo would be to read some threads about it. That's obviously where Holden obtained his "experience".
 
David Fermani said:
I clay with my ring on all the time. :eek: Reading threads doesn't make you a better detailer. Becoming a proficient detailer requires years of hands on experience. Nobody I know of became a pro from reading forums. After learning things here, they still need a certain amount of touch time to perfect. The last thing I'd ever suggest someone wanting to learn how to detail a Lambo would be to read some threads about it. That's obviously where Holden obtained his "experience".
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Again Dave is absoultly SPOT on here. :woot2: I've been doing this for over 14 years now and I still learn something new every season. I still aspire to "master" a technique. And I didn't learn any of it from reading a forum or watching videos. You don't get in shape by "watching" work out videos LOL
 
David Fermani said:
I clay with my ring on all the time. :eek: Reading threads doesn't make you a better detailer. Becoming a proficient detailer requires years of hands on experience. Nobody I know of became a pro from reading forums. After learning things here, they still need a certain amount of touch time to perfect.
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I agree. Forums are a great source for information, if you can dissimulate the good from the bad; but nothing can replace hands on experience. I'm sure you've all run into guys who are convinced something they read on the forums is right, when you know it's not.



Someone on Autopia has a quote that says something like "A man with experience is not at the mercy of a man with an opinion". I've always liked that one.
 
i'm still in shock at all of this. as pointed out by others - we all have to start somewhere and surely everyone has made mistakes in the past. messing up trim could almost be thought of that.... but what about a sloppy clean-up? how do u BEGIN to justify that? that's not a "different technique" or a "slip of the rotary." i just don't understand. If someone had me work on such a vehicle I can't imagine leaving it with crap all over the place.

i feel so bad for the otherwise beautiful lamborghini :(
 
I would be a very pissed off owner if I picked up my car and found trim burned away. I definitely wouldn't pay a penny either. Seriously, this happens all to often and it really is frustrating. Rotaries are serious tools which should be handled by professionals who are well aware of the harm which can be done. Doesn't matter what the value of the car is. I've seen glass actually damaged by a rotary which skipped across the surface.



Blows my mind how people can claim to be experts.



When people ask me to detail there car I usually say no, I would charge more than you would want to spend. Good work requires at least 30 - 40 hrs and some disassembly of the car to get it done properly. It also requires that you take hte time to clean between the body lines, cover trim and go very slow. No excuse for the garbage produced by this guy, especially at the prices quoted.



Unbelievable.
 
MBZ 500E said:
....Good work requires at least 30 - 40 hrs and some disassembly of the car to get it done properly.....No excuse for the garbage produced by this guy, especially at the prices quoted.



Unbelievable.
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Poor Lambo. Came all the way to America only to be abused.:(



I don't see many talk about disassembly of lights and trim and so on. Maybe this is another thread, but to ya'all take the time to do that when necessary?



(Not a pro. Just watching and admiring the GOOD work. The good ones know who they are.)



:thx
 
biolink said:
Poor Lambo. Came all the way to America only to be abused.:(



I don't see many talk about disassembly of lights and trim and so on. Maybe this is another thread, but to ya'all take the time to do that when necessary?



(Not a pro. Just watching and admiring the GOOD work. The good ones know who they are.)



:thx
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Disassembly depends on what is being done. For example, concours prep definitely requires removal of some trim/lights etc to clean inside and get access to visible areas which can't be cleaned with Q-Tips etc. But if you're not doing concours work or getting paid for it then at minimum trim should be taped off and avoided by a rotary to avoid damage. This should be common practice IMHO.
 
Yikes!



I see that some of the photos are gone now?



Anyway, I have been detailing for a few years now but I don't do it professionally...

I mostly do my cars and my friend's cars and have found that I too learn something new almost every time I do a different car.



And I agree about the experience comments too. Before I ever picked up a PC I read and read and read and watched videos and videos heh. But the real learning is in the doing.



Same when I moved to a rotary. Much reading and watching of vids, but I've only been using the rotary for about a year now and I still take it very slow and am EXTREMELY careful because I respect the machine and follow the sage advice given here and elsewhere.



Either way I DEFINITELY tape off any trim no matter if the car was a Lambo or a Yugo.



It seems like maybe this guy just got a little ahead of himself and perhaps bit off more than he could chew.



I wouldn't have even attempted to polish that area with a machine. I do all jambs and tight areas like that by hand... so I'm not even sure how he managed to do that.



Anyway, I hope he does pay for that trim and refunds the guy's money.
 
I'm still not exactly sure what's going on...can someone just give a summary of what happened? All of the pictures are down.
 
Ace M3 said:
I'm still not exactly sure what's going on...can someone just give a summary of what happened? All of the pictures are down.
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From what i can gather the OP claimed to be the best detailer ever. Flew from Canada to the us to detail a Lambo.



proceeded to make a rookie mistake and destroy some trim on the lambo.



Owner of the car gets pissed (rightfully so the price for the detail was insane).



The OP disapears.
 
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