Talk Me Into The G110

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HLxDrummer

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Well I bought a ton of stuff from Detailed Image/Griots/Walmart/Zaino and there really is one more thing I want to get - a DA.



I have a 10" generic orbital my Dad got for me cheap at a garage sale that I haven't used yet, but this probably won't work for polishing correct? Too big of a pad and too slow? (2500 RPMs/OPMs) Also, it just has two bonnets, no pads.



I have been doing everything by hand so far and they have come out decent, but I haven't been able to do much if any paint correction. I think I would buy the G110 if I buy one, but combined with the pads it is a lot of money on top of what I have already spent for a side business that may fail.



Then again, if I don't get a DA I'm thinking my work won't turn out as good and I will not get repeat customers/referrals. So really it could pay for itself, I just have a hard time spending another $200. Is it really worth it?



Can I use any velcro pad with the supplied 4.75" backing plate? Autogeek says they recommend the LC backing plate for their pads, but is it needed?



I should get a pad slightly bigger than the backing plate correct?



Also, would a light cutting pad, polishing pad, and finishing pad be good to start?



Sorry for all the questions, but I've been researching like crazy and just need some opinions. Thanks everyone!
 
Yes, it's really worth $200. Forget about buying only 3 pads. Even if you weren't doing this for a "side business", you'll need more pads than that. You'll need multiple of each grade in case they get loaded up/dirty during a detail or if you are changing products. You may need multiple sizes of pads, not to mention foam/wool.



You can work by hand, it's just a LOT of work. Machine usually requires you to tape off and/or do some areas by hand anyway, however.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Yes, it's really worth $200. Forget about buying only 3 pads. Even if you weren't doing this for a "side business", you'll need more pads than that. You'll need multiple of each grade in case they get loaded up/dirty during a detail or if you are changing products. You may need multiple sizes of pads, not to mention foam/wool.



You can work by hand, it's just a LOT of work. Machine usually requires you to tape off and/or do some areas by hand anyway, however.
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Thanks for the info. I see a lot of people saying ~1 cutting pad, 2 polishing and 1/2 finishing to start and wasn't really sure why. I see what your saying about the pads becoming saturated though. I do wash my stuff after pretty much every job, although it would probably be worth it to just get a bunch now.



I was also thinking I could get away with smaller pads to start since they can be aggressive enough to tackle some swirls/defects, but also gentle if I use less pressure/speed/different product, or am I way off base? I think I'll skip wool for now as I am going to take my time starting with remove just a few defects at first until I get the hang of using the machine.



Yes, it is a lot of work lol I always wondered how people did details so fast, then I came across this site :p



Thanks again!
 
I have one. That should be all the "talking into" you need. :D



Well as Setec already stated, itsworth every penny. And I wouldnt suggest getting sub-par pads/ backing plates. You wont enjoy them.



Your results will be much better much faster.



And your 10" buffer wont offer much paint correction ability.



Just give in and do what you know you need to.
 
craigdt said:
I have one. That should be all the "talking into" you need. :D



Well as Setec already stated, itsworth every penny. And I wouldnt suggest getting sub-par pads/ backing plates. You wont enjoy them.



Your results will be much better much faster.



And your 10" buffer wont offer much paint correction ability.



Just give in and do what you know you need to.
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Man.. such a dilemma. I'll probably order one from Autogeek tonight lol



Is the supplied backing plate alright to start? What pads would you recommend?



Thanks man!
 
As someone who polished by hand the first 11 years I had my detailing business, I can tell you that proper machine polishing beats proper hand polishing no matter how good you might be at it.
 
The G110 really is a great machine. I was surprised at how smoth it operated (at least for a DA). It was also packaged nicely in a case. The only sugggestion that I have with the case is that you should have the ability to be able to place the unit in the case without taking it apart everytime.
 
HLxDrummer said:
Man.. such a dilemma. I'll probably order one from Autogeek tonight lol



Is the supplied backing plate alright to start? What pads would you recommend?



Thanks man!
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If I were you, I would buy the kit from Auto Detailing Solutions -- Meguiar's Car Wax, Auto Polish & Detailing Supplies Store



The one that has the 105/205 samplers, a few pads, a good backing plate, etc. That should get you out the door and let you see what else you might need.



Best of luck



Edit:

Meguiar's G110 Dual-Action Polisher Express Kit



Thats the kit I was talking about. It comes with only the 205. Great buy at $170!
 
Scottwax said:
As someone who polished by hand the first 11 years I had my detailing business, I can tell you that proper machine polishing beats proper hand polishing no matter how good you might be at it.
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I can imagine. I would say working pretty hard with my hand (although I was using a pretty unagressive polish - Meg's #9) I achieved 20% correction lol



I'm going to read up a ton tonight/watch videos and try to learn the proper technique the best I can.



the walrus said:
This was the 2nd vehicle I polished with my new G110. I love it!



http://www.autopia.org/forum/click-brag/117937-super-oxidized-single-stage-red-4runner.html
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Wow that's awesome! My VR4 is single stage and swirled/faded a little so that should be fun. This pretty much convinced me to get it.



Now what pads guys? I can't buy a lot right now. I'm thinking 2 orange (light cut), 2 white (polish), and one finishing (grey)? Is it ok to wash them in Dawn? Looks like that's what a lot of people do.



Anything to help preserve the velcro? I've seen a few threads where people had issues with the pads not wanting to stick.



Will the Meg's backing plate be ok for now?



Thanks so much for answering all of these questions. I've been on 3Si for years now and I know how repetitive and annoying it can be when a newcomer comes on asking basic questions, but I'm trying to learn and search as much as I can on my own.
 
your hands will never duplicate the end result like the G110 would. do yourself a favor and get one and your arms will thank you later. to start get around three 5.5" or 6.5" (most prefer the 5.5" pads) orange and white pads and you'll be on your way...
 
Cool, I'm definitely getting one. I have the cart ready.



So far:

G110

2 Orange

2 White

1 Grey

LC 5" Backing Plate

Orange Foam Pad Conditioning Brush



My main thing is do I need the LC plate or will the W67DA that comes with it be ok? This will save me a decent chunk of change if I don't need it, but if it's a good idea I'll get it.
 
This is what I started out with. This is a very effective combo for people like me who want to get into polishing but on a budget.



G110 w/4.75" BP (the Meg's BP is just fine)

2 orange 5.5" pads

2 White 5.5" pads

(Polisher came with 2 blue 6.5" pads but I don't really like them, prefer to wax by hand.)

Head over to Walmart and pick up:

Meg's Ultimate Compound $8

Swirl X $8

Dawn Power Dissolver for pad cleaning (this stuff rocks!) $3

And then get a decent wax. I like Meg's #26, and I can get it OTC at the local parts store. $12



Do your own car with this combo. Do the wife's car, and maybe mom & dad's car. The G110 is so easy to use and get great results, you'll be comfortable in no time. After a while you can try out some other polishes (samplers of M105,M205 for example), and maybe later get some 4 inch orange pads when you feel the need for more correction ability, or spot correction.



Have fun and be sure to post pics!! :buffing:



Justin
 
Well if I recall corectly, (Im at work so I cant go measure) but the included backing plate is too big for the 5.5" pads. Is that what you got?

Edit: apparently its fine.





Thats a good list you have there. With the possible exception of the brush. Its not *necessary*. There are other cheaper ways of cleaning up pads.
 
The backing pad is like 4.75" or something.



I have some regular Dawn (I wonder if this will be alright until I get the better stuff?).



I also have Ultimate Compound (heard it was a little lighter than M105 which IMO will be good for me to start out with and Meg's #9. I will be using Zaino for wax by hand.



Looks like I'm good to go, I'll let you know how everything goes. I'll be doing my car first of course :)



Thanks again everyone!
 
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