Synthetic chamois or Waffle Weave

Shine, Patrick is a detailer, who also sells detailing products including MF towels. My perception is that Patrick is a respected member and businessman. Listen more, talk less, pay attention, get your facts right and then begin typing. It will usually keep the egg on the plate and off your face.
 
I have used most of the drying tools out there at one time or another and I can say without hesitation that I prefer the waffle weave MF over anything else. It dries better and is gentler on the paint than anything I have used. I have about 20 different ones from different vendors and they are all excellent.

The Absorber on the other hand is a piece of crap IMO. It doesn't "absorb" as it's name implies and if you pull it across the surface it drags terribly. Not good for the LSP. I just can't see how anybody that has used both an Absorber and a waffle weave can like the Absorber better. Of course this is just my opinion.
 
Anthony A said:
...The Absorber on the other hand is a piece of crap IMO. It doesn't "absorb" as it's name implies and if you pull it across the surface it drags terribly. Not good for the LSP. I just can't see how anybody that has used both an Absorber and a waffle weave can like the Absorber better. Of course this is just my opinion.
And we all have our own opinion, which makes for more interesting conversation. :D

As you may hav read, I am one of those who appreciates the synthetic chamois for what they are and what they have to offer and enjoy WW also for all the reasons already noted.

A question and an observation. Question: Do you wash only your own vehicle, or do you have to do several cars in a day or on consecutive days? If you do, I think you could appreciate the synthetics for their ability to rebound. Observation: If your absorber drags terribly, then you aren't using it properly (or at least to its full potential). It is my experience that you should either a) blot or b) pull the absorber lightly across the surface without placing the full weight of the "towel" on the surface. In doing so, there will be very little if any dragging. FWIW, I use the same technique with a WWs for my initial pass.
 
Mr. Clean said:
And we all have our own opinion, which makes for more interesting conversation. :D

As you may hav read, I am one of those who appreciates the synthetic chamois for what they are and what they have to offer and enjoy WW also for all the reasons already noted.

A question and an observation. Question: Do you wash only your own vehicle, or do you have to do several cars in a day or on consecutive days? If you do, I think you could appreciate the synthetics for their ability to rebound. Observation: If your absorber drags terribly, then you aren't using it properly (or at least to its full potential). It is my experience that you should either a) blot or b) pull the absorber lightly across the surface without placing the full weight of the "towel" on the surface. In doing so, there will be very little if any dragging. FWIW, I use the same technique with a WWs for my initial pass.



I am not a pro and only do my cars.


When I used the Absorber I laid it on the car and lifted it off and repeated. I guess you could call this blotting. It didn't work well at all so I pulled the Absorber across the surface and it was very difficult to do because it dragged badly.

When I use a waffle weave I just lay it down and lift it off and it works very well. If I pull it glides nicely and no marring. I have checked in every conceivable type of lighting.

I understand the need for a towel that can "rebound" if you do many cars. One synthetic that worked pretty good for me was the Water Sprite. It was easily wrung out and you could use that on many cars over.
 
TrueDetailer said:
Patrick its nothing personal. I went to far with some of the things i said, i'm sorry i was already having a rough day. didn't mean to make it seem personal don't need everyone around here hating me. i still say neither of them is better then the other Its what need of them and personal prefrence.

To answer your few questions. I've mostly used automagic since i got into detailing. I discovered the absorber thru automagic. My supplier carries it on his truck. I used cotten towels before. The absorber works for me because i do more then one car a day. and i don't need to have a garbage bag full of towels to dry the cars off. just one absorber.

And I thank you for the dialogue.....

I didn't know you were a towel vendor. Now I understand......Here I was thinking he was a detailer like most members on here.
Shine,
Patrick is a detailer, who also sells detailing products including MF towels. My perception is that Patrick is a respected member and businessman.
Thank you Kent.
Of course you can wring it out, but the product is no longer as effective as a similarly wrung out synthetic. I do have a tidy assortment of WW towels in varying sizes (you probably have intimate knowledge of many of the ones in my possession ). IMO, the size of the towel does not factor into this. It is quite simply the difference between the two products (WW / Synthetic chamois) which makes one perform better after saturation.
I can live with that, but it will still absorb, and it (drying) is easily manageable with an additional MF. In eithercase however, both products are only capable of holding what has been released while ringing out. Once they reach saturation, there only as god as you are strong !
 
Patrick, we'll just have to agree that our personal experiences differ regarding the performance of these two product types. :bigups

Once they reach saturation, there only as god as you are strong
I just can't explain why I am "stronger" when wringing out a synthetic vs the WW. :D
 
I have used both and Here is my opinion!
First off they both can be considerd Synthetic because they are not 100% natural! I would consider them to be more on the lines of Hybrid!

The Absorber: While it does have its ability to "Absorb" I have found that id doesnt dry! When I wash my cars (or any car that I detail) As a final wash down I use the method of a steady stream of water which really leaves the car just about dry! So with that said ....The use of this towel isn't really necessary! I would just end following up with another towel to actually DRY the car. Also I have found the absorber awkward to wash!! When you put it in the washing machine it soaks up so much damn water which makes difficult to wash (IMO)

MicroFiberI feel that the WW has excelent absorbing abilities. It also does "dry" the car. Which I find cuts down on time! There have been a few times when I did have to follow up with an additional towel. Even still If I was washing multiple cars I have found that when I wring out My WW completly refold it and put it back in its draw. With in about 25 mins (which is about how long it takes me to get to the drying stages of washing a car!) that towel is just about dry and sufficient enough to do the job well! While the absorber does have this ability as well ... the drying ability of the WW far surpasses that of the absorber!
 
Mr. Clean said:
Patrick, we'll just have to agree that our personal experiences differ regarding the performance of these two product types. :bigups

I just can't explain why I am "stronger" when wringing out a synthetic vs the WW. :D
Agreed amigo !
 
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