Swissvax VS Victoria?

Your compairing a 50 dollar wax to anywhere from 80 to 2,500 which one. I have the Concourso but it is gonna be different to the Concours. The Concourso is easier to remove, has more jetting, and is definately glossier. I think that is where Victoria's Concours needs improvement. It needs more gloss to it.
 
have you tried the three offerings from chemical guys / Hardcore, Petes, and 5050. I did not find red Victoria Wax to be all that special.
 
Steelth said:
Your compairing a 50 dollar wax to anywhere from 80 to 2,500 which one. I have the Concourso but it is gonna be different to the Concours. The Concourso is easier to remove, has more jetting, and is definately glossier. I think that is where Victoria's Concours needs improvement. It needs more gloss to it.
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The cost of the wax does not make it any better or worse...It makes it more about supply and demand.
 
onelazydawg said:
have you tried the three offerings from chemical guys / Hardcore, Petes, and 5050. I did not find red Victoria Wax to be all that special.
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have used 50/50 and it was ok not the depth wetness I wanted, I am happy with souveran but want to try something new



I heard 53 is similar to 50/50 that is why i havent used it
 
joshtpa said:
The cost of the wax does not make it any better or worse...It makes it more about supply and demand.
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Well the cost of the wax doens't necessarily make it better or worse but Zymol Vintage lasts longer and looks alot better than say Zymol Creame or Pinnacle Souveran. Sometimes price is relative. I hope your not going to try to oppose me in every thread now because I argued with you about AW and Z8.
 
Steelth said:
Well the cost of the wax doens't necessarily make it better or worse but Zymol Vintage lasts longer and looks alot better than say Zymol Creame or Pinnacle Souveran. Sometimes price is relative. I hope your not going to try to oppose me in every thread now because I argued with you about AW and Z8.
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Saying that Zymol looks better than Pinnacle is purely subjective. What looks better to one, does not look better to the other...As far as oppose you? You said something that was completely incorrect about AW and Z8. They are not the same product, and you said because they look and smell alike, they must be, so in that argument, all paste waxes that smell alike are the same right?
 
joshtpa said:
Saying that Zymol looks better than Pinnacle is purely subjective. What looks better to one, does not look better to the other...As far as oppose you? You said something that was completely incorrect about AW and Z8. They are not the same product, and you said because they look and smell alike, they must be, so in that argument, all paste waxes that smell alike are the same right?
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I was saying that AW performs like Z8 And seems like Z8 is a hyper concentrated AW. It was not a literal statement sorry you mistook it for that. Zymol Vintage doesn't look better unless you want more depth, wetness, and DEFINATELY durability. I'm going to guess you have yet to see in person or use such a product so I would understand your opinion.
 
joshtpa said:
Saying that Zymol looks better than Pinnacle is purely subjective. What looks better to one, does not look better to the other...As far as oppose you? You said something that was completely incorrect about AW and Z8. They are not the same product, and you said because they look and smell alike, they must be, so in that argument, all paste waxes that smell alike are the same right?
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Man, you gotta ease up and let it go. Now you're hyjacking another thread just to keep your argument going! Give it up. :hairpull
 
Back to topic since I think I obviously got a hair up joshtpa's eh you know where.

I would go with the Swissol or Zymol as a choice Swissol is easier to remove than the Zymol but I think Zymol has a slight durability edge but both are great products non the less.
 
No ruffled feathers here, but you have to understand that LSP's are for the most part subjective...You cant say one Definitively looks better than another.
 
joshtpa said:
No ruffled feathers here, but you have to understand that LSP's are for the most part subjective...You cant say one Definitively looks better than another.
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If you wish to talk further please delete this post and just PM me man we're stealing thread like crazy left and right :lock:



P.S Subjective if you like more depth, wettness.:p
 
what color is your paint mdx? Also where would you get swissvax? I'm looking to get swissvax samurai or carbon myself.
 
RallyMSP said:
what color is your paint mdx? Also where would you get swissvax? I'm looking to get swissvax samurai or carbon myself.
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Carbon is Zymol..



If you wanted Swissol/Swissvax Phil over at Detailers Domain just got some fresh in stock. I ordered up some Zuffenhausen from him. :up
 
Steelth said:
Carbon is Zymol..



If you wanted Swissol/Swissvax Phil over at Detailers Domain just got some fresh in stock. I ordered up some Zuffenhausen from him. :up
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I know carbon is zymol. i'm choosing between the 2 brands. I would get zuffenhausen but I doubt my mazda qualifies as a porsche lol. I'm not sure what type of paint it is.





How do you like the concourso? what colors have you tried it on?
 
I've tried it on Black, Silver, Light Blue, Yellow so far. I personally love the Concourso. But if I were not a detailer probably wouldnt use it on my Yellow car simply because for 225 on yellow is not much different to say Carbon other than ease of use and a wetter. But the color it being cannot tell much difference but on a Black E55 AMG I did the Concourso Shined like crazy.
 
DieselMDX said:
Anyone use these? Looking to get a new carnauba and was thinking of this and Victoria wax.





Pics would be helpfull also





Thanx
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I use the Victoria Concours Wax. I used it on my Meteor Metallic Boxster, with their Lite Cleanse.



It's good stuff. Unfortunately the only pics I have are from my phone and it's pretty hard not to show a shiny grey lump but here goes:



















 
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