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zarko

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Ok heres my dilema i have a Black mercedes s600

I have tried everything I have to get rid of the swirls..



Things ive tried

using a pc and Flex

IZ intesive pasta w/ Yellow pad and pfw

Menz ip w/yellow and orange pad and pfw

Megs 4 W/ yellow and orange pad and pfw

Optimum Hyper Compound with both pads



the shine on the car is amazing but i still cant get rid of the swirls....



Is the Clear just to hard for a flex or pc

Is this a job for a rotary



any reccomendations.. Pls



Thank you
 
Zarko said:
whats the best pad choice to use m105 with on the mercedes
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try using the white pad first in a little test spot and if that doesn't budge, move up to the orange pad...
 
i'm not exactly the longest most experienced person... but from your post... are you just using the menzerna intensive polish with yellow/orange pad, and thats it? I wouldnt be suprised to be leaving some very light swirls on paint (personally, with my lack of experience probably being a factor) with that combo, i use rotary as well too though so..... i think you need to be following up with something like menz micro or nano polish, or some other finishing type polish... if i'm out to lunch someone slap me :P
 
Have rectified swirls on a black S500 last month.

1. Megs 95 with Presta Black Wool pad - Makita rotary Speed 3

2. Megs 85 with Megs Yellow Polishing Pad - Makita rotary Speed 1.5

3. Menzerna 106FF with Megs Finishing Pad - Flex Speed 4.



Wiped down with de-waxer, and then with alcohol. No swirls at all.



If you only have Flex, perhaps you can try:

1. Megs 105 with Megs Maroon Pad - Speed 5

2. Menzerna IP with Megs Yellow Pad

3. Menzerna 106FF with Megs Finishing Pad
 
Zarko said:
Ok heres my dilema i have a Black mercedes s600

I have tried everything I have to get rid of the swirls..



Things ive tried

using a pc and Flex

IZ intesive pasta w/ Yellow pad and pfw...



the shine on the car is amazing but i still cant get rid of the swirls....



Is the Clear just to hard for a flex or pc ...
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The PFW pad is, IME, more aggressive than any foam pad. The Meg's burgundy cutting pad (pn 7006, IIRC) is mighty aggressive but the smallest size it comes in is 6" and that's too big for a PC (and probably for the Flex too, dunno for certain, never used one).



Were you using the 3.5" PFW with the 1Z Pasta Intensiv? You oughta be using 3.5"/4" pads for this.



IME the 3.5" PFW/Pasta Intensiv combo works great on hard clear, though it might still take a few passes.



Another idea would be to try the yellow wool Edge pad, which is now available in 4" from CycloToolmakers. I haven't tried mine yet, but it oughta be one *aggressive* pad. Don't bother trying it in a larger size ;)



I can't imagine a '01 Benz being harder than Audis and I've corrected nasty scratches on them *by hand*. I just *gotta* think you can fix this somehow without resorting to a rotary.



Just imagine if your rotary efforts resulted in holograms that you found equally difficult to remove :eek:
 
so you think i should try the 3.5 inch pfw with my pc or the 6 inch pfw with the flex....



i have the 2.3/4inch backing plate for the pfw is that ok



thanks
 
Zarko- Noting that I have zero experience with a Flex, I'd use the 3.5" PFW on the PC. You might need a few passes but I've done some *VERY* impressive correction with that combo (and on hard clear too). Expect some residual hazing that you'll have to clean up with a milder combo.



Yeah, that 2.75" backing plate is what I use for this.



If you're using the 1Z Pasta Intensiv, start out slow (speed ~4 or even lower) so the abrasives have a chance to do some aggressive work before they start to break down. 1Z abrasives are "easy fracture" and they're sensitive to speed in that regard. Faster isn't more aggressive with them in the way it usually is with other products. Speeding things up *after they abrasives break down* will help the product finish out better though.



See how that works and post back with your results if you have a chance.
 
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