Swirls Removal by Hand

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imported_mohebmhanna

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Could you plaese advice me which prodcut (hand application) I can use to remove swirls. I use Meguiars swirls x and it did good job but still some othe swirls still there. Appreciate all of your inputs.
 
I highly recommend getting a random orbital. Much time saved.



All I know to use by hand would be swirl-x. I don't know every product on the market, but most were designed to be used with a machine.



I have used polishes by hand (menzerna final polish and sonus sfx-1/2) and they worked by hand but very slowly... I mean to do a whole car would seriously take 10x longer.
 
The amount of time a random orbital would save you is worth more in time than you would pay for it plus pads. If you're a bit tighter on money, you can get the Wal-Mart Turtle Wax orbitals which are only rated at about 1800 OPM (as opposed to 6000+ which you'd find with a PCXP/GG6/Meguiar's g110). Although, I'd 200% suggest looking into investing in a "real" random orbital.
 
By hand, I'd go with either Meguiar's Ultimate Compound or their M105. Either/both might require a follow-up with a milder product (most here would say that they absolutely will, especially the M105).



But yeah, if you can swing the expense I'd sure buy a good random orbital polisher. Note that there will still be some tight spots you'll need to do by hand though.
 
I'm not interesting to get Turtle Wax orbitals. Could you please define which models you're recommend and from where can I got it and whic pads can I use as well. Second, which prodcut can I use for example, M105 follow with 205 or menzerna final polish. Thanks for your all help and advice.
 
mohebmhanna said:
I'm not interesting to get Turtle Wax orbitals. Could you please define which models you're recommend and from where can I got it and whic pads can I use as well. Second, which prodcut can I use for example, M105 follow with 205 or menzerna final polish...
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For one-stop shopping, you could go to We Are Car Care -- Car Wax, Car Polish, Auto Detailing Supplies, Car Buffers & Car Accessories Store . I'd get the Griot's Garage 6" Random Orbital.



For products and pads, it really depends on what you're trying to do and what paint you're working on. The usual suggestions are M105, or the milder Optimum Hyper Compound, or 3D UNO.



Cutting pads- either the new Meguiar's MF system or their burgundy foam cutting pad. Or somebody's orange light cut pad.



Follow up- Meguiar's M205 or the Swirl-X or Optimum's Hyper Polish or the UNO, or something from Menzerna, used with some kind of polishing pad (there are a lot of different ones out there and I haven't kept up with what the latest ones are). Sorry that I'm not being more specific, but I don't know what you're working on or what your personal preferences are (diminishing or nondiminishing abrasives? long or short work time?).
 
mohebmhanna said:
I'm working on BMW 2008 black color (my car). Could you please explain what is the differences between diminishing or nondiminishing abrasive. Thanks.
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Diminishing abrasives (e.g., Menzerna products, older Meguiar's stuff like M83 and M80, older Optimum stuff like Optimum Car Polish) used to be all there were; they start out aggressive and "break down" to become more and more gentle. That's the "diminishing" part- they get milder and milder as the abrasives diminish.



Nondiminishing abrasives are newer (e.g., Meguiar's M105 and M205, Optimum Hyper Compound and Hyper Polish) and they maintain the same level of abrasion throughout their work cycle. Due to other changes in the abrasive technology, these can still leave a nice finish even though they do not do the "get milder" thing, and you don't have to work them as long because you don't need to wait for them to do the breaking down. You *do* need to choose the right pads and prime (i.e., prepare) and maintain the pads (i.e., clean them frequently) to get optimal results. Plus, some of these products simply have a *very* short work time, which some people either like (that'd be me) or don't, and I dunno which you'll end up preferring.



IIRC, there are two BMW blacks- a very, *VERY* soft one (Jet Black) and a more normal one (Obsidian Black).
 
Do yourself a favor and go with the Griot's 6" DA, there are numerous people on here (including myself) that have gone from the very popular Porter Cable 7424XP to the Griot's 6". If you go to griotsgarage.com they have them for free shipping and I believe there's a 15% off coupon code laying around here somewhere, although it may be expired. Have fun with what will soon be your newest addiction.
 
If you're cruisin an '08 BMW and show enough interest in auto detailing that you registered and posted on here, you probably have the time and wallet to start into this 'hobby' :).

For starting, I would very highly recommend a GG 6" along with the new Meguiar's microfiber correction system. It's a very user friendly system that amateurs and pros alike both use. Besides that, all you need are some microfiber towels (aside from what you'd need for washing and claying your vehicle).
 
I have the Griots DA and will never go back to hand polishing a car. I even apply the wax with it if I have it out. Watch for sales they run some good ones from time to time.
 
SpoolinNoMore said:
If you're cruisin an '08 BMW and show enough interest in auto detailing that you registered and posted on here, you probably have the time and wallet to start into this 'hobby' ..
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Heh heh, easy for us to spend other people's money, huh?!? But sure, I think that all the time too :D
 
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