Swirls are back : (

CleanGSR said:
Then....if the swirls come back and are in up/down direction I know it's from the washing.....if they are in left right direction, I know they came from QD'ing.
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Works on glass as well, then you know if the streaks are on the inside or outside.
 
Scottwax said:
Works on glass as well, then you know if the streaks are on the inside or outside.
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^^ Always a good tip.



Megs Last Touch is very solid for a lubricant, works well in helping the drying process.



Also helps to limit the number of times you have to go over the car if you are just washing. You can combine the drying and spot check phase into one so you only go over the exterior once.
 
AP2TUDE said:
^^ Always a good tip.



Megs Last Touch is very solid for a lubricant, works well in helping the drying process.



Also helps to limit the number of times you have to go over the car if you are just washing. You can combine the drying and spot check phase into one so you only go over the exterior once.
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Wait....so you apply Last Touch to a wet car and then wipe off the water and LT at the same time? I think that's what I'm seeing you say. If so, I never tried that and might have to give that a shot sometime. It would seem logical that it would add extra lubrication when drying to prevent swirls from the drying process.
 
Yesterday i washed again my car,and applied some Farecla Black Top Hand Glaze just to see what is going on.I am 90% sure that the swirls are came back because of:

1)a lot of dust was on the air and some of it was on the car while i was drying it.I used QD but i saw that tiny swirls(just a few ) caused by that.

2)while removing the glaze i was trying to remove that "oily swirl-like effect" that oily glazes cause.It was hard to remove them completely.I used 3 MF towels, just to be sure that i didn't reapplying the glaze from the dirty one again on the car,i used also QD for lubrication and more cleaning power(if has any)but the results weren't the expected.I noticed that a lot of swirls are created(maybe also dust was a problem) and it was impossible to remove completely the glaze without swirling my paint.Now the car got some swirls and a lot of "oily swirl-like effect" because of not completely removal of glaze.

I used some Blue Pearl Microfiber Buffing Towel for removing the glaze.



Any advices please???
 
pampos- Heh heh, I can offer additional advice, but it might not be what you'd like to hear :o



Gotta do something about the duty environment or you'll never solve the problem 100%. Yeah, I know, gotta work in the environment you have :nixweiss



Perhaps a QD with better cleaning power/encapsulation and greater lubricity would help a little, but it's still a no-win situation working where it's dusty. You might want to try using ONR at QD strength on each panel before you do the final drying, that's probably what I'd do in that situation.



The oily-glaze effect sounds nasty to me. I'd use a different glaze that doesn't behave that way. There are products that do some decent concealing while being incredibly user-friendly (e.g. 1Z's milder polishes and Autoglym SRP).



Guess I'd buy some ONR and some SRP. I'd top the SRP with Collinite wax BTW.



And until you get this all sorted out, don't worry about trying some new corrective regimen. No point in Ultrafina-ing the paint until you get a handle on this marring. Could be there's no point in doing that type of correction at all...the SRP/Collinite combo could very well do enough concealing that you'll be happy with how it looks. I sure wouldn't bother doing a super correction if I were working in dusty conditions!
 
Anytime i used QD i caused swirls :).it is better to wash it because we have a lot of dust and it is like sand.i can remove them by polishing them but the problem is to keep the car swirl-free
 
pampos said:
Anytime i used QD i caused swirls :).it is better to wash it because we have a lot of dust and it is like sand.i can remove them by polishing them but the problem is to keep the car swirl-free
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Yeah, same here; I only QD after a regular wash. Used as part of a drying regimen, it might help when dealing with the dusty conditions.
 
Accumulator said:
Yeah, same here; I only QD after a regular wash. Used as part of a drying regimen, it might help when dealing with the dusty conditions.
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I already tried it but i feel the MF towel like not sliding on the paint.maybe i used QD in a wrong way??
 
I also only QD after a wash. If the car has been driven since the wash, then I don't touch the paint until next wash. If the MF isn't sliding well with the QD then maybe you're not spraying enough QD on the panel.
 
pampos said:
I already tried it but i feel the MF towel like not sliding on the paint.maybe i used QD in a wrong way??
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Or the wrong QD. I blow most of the water off the car and then usually use Griot's SpeedShine (on carnauba), or FK425 (on anything). I wipe first with a *VERY* plush MF and then I wipe again (to completely dry it) with a WWMF.
 
i tried Sonus Acrylic and Carnauba QD,mothers,Megs and Ultima.Almost the same results.I spray it all over the hood for example and then wipe it.
 
pampos said:
i tried Sonus Acrylic and Carnauba QD,mothers,Megs and Ultima.Almost the same results.I spray it all over the hood for example and then wipe it.
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I haven't used those QDs so :nixweiss I don't do such a large area at a time though, half a hood at the most.
 
Thanks. i will give a try when the dust from the sky is gone and the sun is back : ).i thought those days were cloudy but finally there were no clouds but dust all over the sky :shocked
 
Twista616 said:
Search and read about 3m's Ultrafina...I have yet to use it, but everyone swears by it on VERY soft paints...sorry I couldnt help more...
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3M's ultra fina will leave an OK level of gloss- but won't remove the swirls.... Due to the product make up it'll fill them in, they will just re-appear with a jet wash of even a bit of rain.....
 
i wonder if your not agrresicve enough with cutting into the paint? maybe just filling them in instead of getting a full removal? sounds wierd
 
It is been a lot time ago that i posted this thread....The solution is to repaint the car with a harder CC : )

At the moment i remove the swirls with a fine polish like 85RD and i learned how to keep it swirl free for a longer period of time.... : )
 
You may want to try filling in the swirls with a good glaze and a finishing pad. You'll probably have to do it every few months, but after wet sanding a car it'd be dangerous trying to take off more clear. There's 1,000's of glazes out there and I can't recommend any one particular (I don't use them often), but Megs dos come to mind. After that seal it, seal it and wax it. I don't know if you have it available in Cyprus, but Liquid Glass rocks for butter paint cars. I usually do at least 2 coats on Jap cars then follow it with some nuba... makes it much more scratch resistant than the factory paint.
 
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