Sweet BMW

Elite M.D

Elite M.D

A.K.A. 02Silverado
I detailed this BMW yesterday. It was pretty bad as you will see in the pics. There were no dents or scratches, just alot of oxidation and swirls. The finish is pretty much completely swirl free.:D I was very happy with the outcome and the customer was shocked. He could not believe how good it turned out. I spent about 7 hours total on it, just the exterior.

Before-
 
Those buffer swirls where terrilbe. What did you use to remove them that car looks great so does that truck parked on the street.
 
Fr0zen said:
Those buffer swirls where terrilbe. What did you use to remove them that car looks great so does that truck parked on the street.
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Yeah they were bad.

Here is what I did...

-Wash with Joy (I didn’t have Dawn) and clay.
-High Speed Buffer with Wool Pad using 3M Rubbing Compound part of the Perfect It III
-Wash with Joy again
-High Speed Buffer with Polishing pad using 3M Machine Glaze Perfect It III
-DeWalt Random Orbital with Polishing pad using Poorboys SSR2
-Poorboys EX by hand

The Machine Glaze took the longest to do. It is a PITA to use but is needed to get rid of most of the swirls. Does anyone else use that product and do you experience it caking up? I am going to call 3M tomorrow to see what they say.

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Thats my baby in the background:D Thanks
 
Both cars look great im going to need something more powerfull then DACP soon I might try the Poorboys SSR3 or 3M PI-III or some Koop's Norton Liquid abrasives that just wash away. That BMW was so badly swirls the buffer marks where terrible.
 
Fr0zen said:
Both cars look great im going to need something more powerfull then DACP soon I might try the Poorboys SSR3 or 3M PI-III or some Koop's Norton Liquid abrasives that just wash away. That BMW was so badly swirls the buffer marks where terrible.
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I am going to be doing his Black Navigator pretty soon and it is in terrible condition, Ill probably be using 3M Super Rubbing Compound and High Speed Buffer with wool pad:eek:

I hope to detail my truck tomorrow, Ill post some pics:)
 
Holy moly those before pics were downright scary! Whoever was responsible for those holograms and swirls shold be banned from detailing forever!

Nice work on the car, it looks fantastic! Gotta admire someone who can wield a rotary with a compound AND wool pad and get a finished product looking like that. I'pm still scared to death of wool as I've had mixed success.

As for the PI-III Machine Glaze....I use it and like it very much. I have had a couple occassions were it was tough to buff off...the "caking" you mentioned. When I use PI-III MG now I always keep a bottle of Meg's QD or Mother's SHowtime with me as a quick spritz of either of those allows the caked glaze to wipe right off. I'm not quite sure why that happens....what I did or didn't do. Sometimes I have the problem, sometimes I don't. If I were to guess it could be using too much product and not working it long enough. I also have a sneaky feeling temperature/sunlight has a part in it. Everytime I've used PI-III MG indoors I haven't had a problem.

Great work on the beemer!!!! I love the reflection pic with your truck.

Natty
 
02Silverado

Absolutely incredible results !!! This thread could be put into the "Detailing Hall of Fame". I cringe when I see those swirls in newer black car finishes !!!
 
can this stuff be used with the a Regular Yellow cutting pad with a rotary or is it best to use a Wool pad. ?


Is this the stuff you used. ?

http://www.premiumautocare.com/3mperitiiico.html

I was thinking I can use that Stuff in this order

3M PI-III Rubbing Compounds- Cutting Pad
Meguiars DACP- With Polshing Pad
Meguiars Swirl Free Polish - Finishing Pad

Would that be a good order for removeing heavy swirls and buffer marks. ?
 
Looks amazing! I'm with natty also on the 3m PI III MG. I've found it's mostly heat or dirt issues. When using this on a non clean or smoth surface ie, not alreay compounded. It will tend to stick. I've also noticed on a hot car the solvents evaporate rather quickly and it just dries too fast too work properly. The qd does seem to take care of this issue with ease though.
 
NattyBumppo said:
Holy moly those before pics were downright scary! Whoever was responsible for those holograms and swirls shold be banned from detailing forever!
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He bought the car used. It was about a year old when he got it and he said it looked like that. But it also hasn’t been washed properly, taken to Gas Station car washes. He bought it from a Mercedes dealership too.

NattyBumppo said:
Nice work on the car, it looks fantastic! Gotta admire someone who can wield a rotary with a compound AND wool pad and get a finished product looking like that. I'pm still scared to death of wool as I've had mixed success.
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Thanks!!! When I started detailing about 2 1/2 years ago (I was 16 at the time) the company that I get most of my supplies from taught me how to detail. The first thing I worked with was a rotary. I have been using one for the longest time but now that I have my DA Polisher I have been using it a lot but I cant get the same results on bad cars without the rotary so I am very glad that’s what I started out with. I too was scared to use a rotary, wool pad and compound on any car till about 2 months ago I found out by experimenting that I cant get all the swirls out (remove not fill) without doing that. I feel that the right polish after the compounding is important after doing a heavy cut like that.

NattyBumppo said:
As for the PI-III Machine Glaze....I use it and like it very much. I have had a couple occassions were it was tough to buff off...the "caking" you mentioned. When I use PI-III MG now I always keep a bottle of Meg's QD or Mother's SHowtime with me as a quick spritz of either of those allows the caked glaze to wipe right off. I'm not quite sure why that happens....what I did or didn't do. Sometimes I have the problem, sometimes I don't. If I were to guess it could be using too much product and not working it long enough. I also have a sneaky feeling temperature/sunlight has a part in it. Everytime I've used PI-III MG indoors I haven't had a problem.
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I feel that the Machine Glaze is the best to use when using the Rubbing Compound and wool pad. 3Ms Perfect It III is an awesome system. I called 3M today to ask about the Machine Glaze caking up and I was told it most likely has to do with the heat and humidity. When I did the BMW the high was about 102 and that’s about the time I used the Machine Glaze. I followed the directions on the bottle (right pad and speed). He said to make sure to do 2'x2' sections which I did and spraying it down with a little water will help, which I have done before and it does help.

NattyBumppo said:
Great work on the beemer!!!! I love the reflection pic with your truck.
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Thanks again;) :D
 
Re: 02Silverado

Clean Dean said:
Absolutely incredible results !!! This thread could be put into the "Detailing Hall of Fame". I cringe when I see those swirls in newer black car finishes !!!
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WOW!!! Thanks a lot:D It did come out very nice.
 
Fr0zen said:
can this stuff be used with the a Regular Yellow cutting pad with a rotary or is it best to use a Wool pad. ?


Is this the stuff you used. ?

http://www.premiumautocare.com/3mperitiiico.html

I was thinking I can use that Stuff in this order

3M PI-III Rubbing Compounds- Cutting Pad
Meguiars DACP- With Polshing Pad
Meguiars Swirl Free Polish - Finishing Pad

Would that be a good order for removeing heavy swirls and buffer marks. ?
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I would say it is best to use a wool pad. I have used foam pads before and I do not get the same results I get with the wool pad.

This is the rubbing compound I used. It is actually Part of Perfect It II. The Perfect It III Rubbing Compound is probably very similar and better. I get the quart size, not gallon.
http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/...us_aad_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html

Then I used this...
http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/...us_aad_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html

If you are going to use the PI III Compound then I would do the Machine Glaze after for sure. Then what ever you what after that.

I then just got an even heavier compound that I will probably have to use on his Navigator.
http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/...us_aad_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html

I will probably get banned for this but those 3M prices are a little high. I could get the products and ship them out for less then that.
 
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