Survey about holograms

SVR said:
I'm already doing OP removal and so is my friend in Boise Idaho that I see every year.

An asian company currently offer a product and a foam pad to remove heavy orange peel
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I'd love to see a video of that process as I was always taught to remove orange peel by sanding and was also told that it can't be done effectively by polishing...





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When I read the original post I had to check the date, I thought maybe it was an old post. I definitely think you can finish down hologram free with a rotary. Now that is a generalization and as other have mentioned the time required can vary greatly depending on paint, product, etc. Is it worth it to do it? I guess that delves into the who "worth" question. Worth it to some, not to others. I like having a DA around for paint that is finicky for sure.
 
SVR said:
I'm already doing OP removal and so is my friend in Boise Idaho that I see every year.

An asian company currently offer a product and a foam pad to remove heavy orange peel
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:showpics IMHO, I can't see this being possible without some kind of proof. How is this happening? Does your friend in Boise post here?
 
David Fermani said:
:showpics IMHO, I can't see this being possible without some kind of proof. How is this happening? Does your friend in Boise post here?
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I agree... I'm a bit skeptical without seeing exactly what is being used and how.
 
YouTube - ‪Auto detailing - Removing Orange Peel Without Wet/Dry Sanding‬‏



My friend in boise doesnt post at all on any forum.

He uses System One X3 whereas I use Xpert 1000 Ultra Polish single polish system which contains five abrasives. non diminishing and diminishing abrasives in the one product.



the way to do is super fast arm speed and 1500 to 2000 rpm with a certain type of pad.



I am about to buy the osren product from malaysia and give it a whirl with their foam pads.
 
what a load of ******** that is. maybe I can record it and upload onto my account

Basically he uses osren perfect forty and their foam pads which are cheap but only get 4 to 5 saloon cars out of the pad before their worn out



It does leave some swirls behind but no big deal.
 
Interesting to see Osren name being mentioned here. I do have the valvet pad and yes it does remove orange peel by just buffing at low speed. However, it is recommended that a compound that is alot more aggressive than m105 is used. What interest me with their system is the ability to remove 1500 sanding marks (tested on soft clear) even when buffing at low speed (600-900rpm).
 
SVR said:
what a load of ******** that is. maybe I can record it and upload onto my account

Basically he uses osren perfect forty and their foam pads which are cheap but only get 4 to 5 saloon cars out of the pad before their worn out



It does leave some swirls behind but no big deal.
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Interesting... I just pulled up some interesting reading on the subject of those products you mentioned:



Mini Review: Dodo Juice Buff Daddy - Autoworld Forum



http://osren.com/blog/?p=3





Only trouble is, I can't seem to find a source from which to obtain Osren compounds (perhaps M101 would be capable of similar?) nor these elusive "velvet pads" being talked about.
 
I would be very interested to see how the foam pad is working to remove OP as well! From a physical perspective, is it a stiff foam pad? As is my current understanding here, the removal of orange peel is best achieved by block flatting, because the paper remains flat and does not mould into to the orange peel like a foam pad will - therefore it will distinguish between the peaks and troughs in the paint finish and allow you to just knock back the peaks to the level of the troughs - ie, relevelling the paint. How does a foam pad distinguish between these peaks and troughs, as many foam will just lower to whole amount of paint and leave you with the orange peel only with a lower average paint thickness...



What are the equivalent paint removal rates: comparing removal of OP with block flatting and with this foam system?



Interestingly, I have found wool pads effective at knocking out orange peel, which for me flew in the face of my understanding at the time, to the point where I was studying the panel weeks after to look for fall back and was using any form of panel wipe I could get my hands on to see if there was fall back but the wool seemed more effective at knocking back the orange peel than foam for some reason - perhaps it is more able to distingush between the peaks and the troughs?
 
While the velvet pad may look abit like the typical foam pad, the face the pad is totally different. It isn't made of foam material but rather some stiff fabric with protruding parallel tight lines. I don't really understand the concept behind how it remove OP, but maybe these pics may shed some light.



velvet1.jpg


velvet2.jpg




One observation though is it does leave behind nasty swirls on soft clear that require 2 more steps to refine. Maybe, only maybe you can get away with 2 steps on very hard clearcoat.
 
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