Surbuf and griots da magic!

Safer because wool doesn't create as much heat.



As far as sanding goes, the least aggressive sanding step is more aggressive than the most agressive polishing step. Still if you know what you are doing, you will not take off too much clear. Hope this helps.
 
tdekany said:
Safer because wool doesn't create as much heat.



As far as sanding goes, the least aggressive sanding step is more aggressive than the most agressive polishing step. Still if you know what you are doing, you will not take off too much clear. Hope this helps.
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Well ifigured that about the aanding which is why I'm confused when people say you save more clear sanding some deep RIDS or gouges instead of polishing..



So the heat issue would be more for rotaries then?
 
Alexshimshimhae said:
Well ifigured that about the aanding which is why I'm confused when people say you save more clear sanding some deep RIDS or gouges instead of polishing..



So the heat issue would be more for rotaries then?
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No, not just the rotaries. DA machines as well.
 
tdekany said:
The black wool pads cut much better on the 3401. FYI.
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OK, thanks for the info. But eh...now I have the SurBufs and I'm not gonna buy the black wool since I hardly ever do this kind of correction.



Funny, I never think of using harsh wool on the Flex 3401 :nixweiss



Shouldn't need to get *too* agressive on the Crown Vic anyhow, I'm expecting the Ford clear to be pretty soft.



And yeah, wool runs a lot cooler than foam, but I'm expecting the Surbufs to run pretty cool too (or at least plenty cool enough).



As far as sanding goes, the least aggressive sanding step is more aggressive than the most agressive polishing step. Still if you know what you are doing, you will not take off too much clear.
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I sometimes fine that sanding can be *less* aggressive than really harsh compounding, if only because I feel I have greater control over what's going on. Might be a personal thing....
 
Surbuff pads are amazing. I need reorder some. The nice thing aout using the surbuff pads over traditional wool and rotory is that they level paint evenly.
 
Barry Theal- We oughta have a thread about that M105 and Surbuf-then-foam finishing pad-technique that you and David were telling me about :think:
 
Barry and David are correct.

Use the same compound, but progressively step-down the pad's aggresiveness.

Once that is done, then you can proceed with the finer polishing (Menz 106FA/FF, PO85RD etc).
 
gigondaz - with the process linked above, there is no need for a finer polish. That's as glossy and deep as you can get the finish.
 
Agreed upon David. Thanks for the link. Now your gonna have Accumulator on TID. Look out huh!!!:chuckle:



Although I do prefer the Surbuff's for the first pad. I don't prime the surbuffs. My second pad can vary depending on paint hardness and stuff . I use Todd's concept just made it my own. :xyxthumbs
 
Wow, never thought of doing correction this way, not with 105 anyway. Im not a pro but have experience making furniture like bars and tables and whatnot. I just cant get the image in my head of using 120 grit paper, then 220 to get rid of the scratches from the 120. I guess Im going to have to get a test vehicle to ease my mind lol.
 
Barry Theal said:
Agreed upon David. Thanks for the link. Now your gonna have Accumulator on TID. Look out huh!!!:chuckle:
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Oh no you don't ;) I spend enough time here at Autopia...that's why I nudged you guys to provide the info!



Thanks, David for posting that.



I'm still leery of the things I mentioned to both you and Barry though:



-Micromarring, if only from wiping off the (seemingly quite abrasive M105 residue). This sort of micromarring virtually never shows up except under the SunGun, but I worry about it anyhow. Well...it might not worry about it too much on the white Crown Vic ;)



-Tenacious M105 residue; that stuff can be a PIA to buff off, especially without causing more micromarring.With any luck my fears will be unfounded, but I'd sure appreciate any additional info related to those concerns.
 
Accumulator: You're basically finishing with a primed soft pad at low speed. It barely creates any dust and no buildup like the other ways it's used. The residue/dust left is so fine I can't imagine that it could cause micromarring. I would like to see you give it a whirl and report your findings though.
 
Accumulator,



Just get off your over anal, compulsive arse and give it a whirl. :chuckle: The dogs don't need to be walked for one night. We will be okay here while you attempt it! :xyxthumbs Take 20 minutes and just be cool like the rest of us. :buffing: Lets us know what you think!!



:LOLOL
 
Barry Theal- Heh heh, these days I'm all about getting the RX-7 ready for auction, and I'd like to see *YOU* tell the Beaucerons that they don't need their walk :chuckle:



I did at least *wash* the Crown Vic the other night and one of these days I really will start on the beater-projects...really...I promise :D



But seriously- OK, copy that on the M105 finishing out OK. I guess the low speed must make all the diff, that and not having too much product on there to wipe away. Hey, I'm all for anything that makes this stuff go faster!
 
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