Stuck with Klasse

[BIOLINK]

If that's the case I'm dumb haha



I always use clay and IPA if I'm not polishing to remove KSG.

I've used SG by misting the applicator (1 pump) it goes on almost like WOWA and never had a problem taking it off, at least 3 coats for NY winters I think it's great just my .02

I'd definatly pick up the KAIO. I find that it makes the finish tons smoother, thereby making SG a little easier.



For the SG, I like to use a MF-covered foam applicator. I mist it with 2-3 sprays of Sonus Acrylic Spritz (which is another great tool for working with the Klasse's). Open the bottle of SG, put the applicator DIRECTLY AGAINST the opening, and invert a few times.



I find that, with that method done twice on pad, i can do a good section, probably half a hood. I'd recommend doing your bigger areas first, and spreading it about 25% thinner than you think you should. This will help it get evenly on the pad, and make the tight areas easier.



OT (a little bit): What do you guys think about KAIO with a green or blue pad?

Thanks for all the input. I actually just bought a bottle of AIO at the Benz dealer. (Yeah! another product in the closet.) I was hoping I could get away with not because I wanted to try the Werkstat Acrylic Jett. At any rate, I have it and am about to give it a shot. I won't give up on the SG yet. I think I was just using the wrong applicator (which was also dry) and too much product. Duh! I will try again after AIO.



Thanks for all the great input. I especially want to try the misting idea.



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This has been a great thread for me. Thanks for all the posted responses and PM responses.



I used the AIO. Brilliant!!! I should have purchased that in the first place. Very easy to use. My white Jetta now looks like it has a candy shell. After a coat of SG and a final coat of P21S I'll be in business.



A few of you have suggested that I us a QD to assist in removing SG. That sounds like my best bet. Thanks.

 

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..A few of you have suggested that I us a QD to assist in removing SG. That sounds like my best bet..

Also try fogging the surface with your breath. The little bit of moisture from the condensation makes it a lot easier. That's all I do, don't even need the QD.

 

[termigator]

Also try fogging the surface with your breath. The little bit of moisture from the condensation makes it a lot easier. That's all I do, don't even need the QD.

Aren't you thirsty after wiping down the whole car?:lol

 

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Aren't you thirsty after wiping down the whole car?:lol

You mean the whole *minivan* I guess that, yeah....it's not exactly fun.



Heh heh, some people here have said stuff like "I'd be out of breath!" and I will say that this idea probably works best if you're in pretty good shape.

 

[BIOLINK]

Also try fogging the surface with your breath. The little bit of moisture from the condensation makes it a lot easier. That's all I do, don't even need the QD.

Really?!



I think I'm leaning towards the QD.

 

[enim]

Biglink, to add to my little description of my process, I also use a cheapy random-orbital with a MF bonnet to remove it.



Short hand SG process:

1 - spray pad with QD (Acrylic Spritz) (Applicator, SAS

2 - a few small drops of SG

3 - Take one panel, do some big sweeping areas, then many smaller swipes

4 - Let dry/flash/whatever (I usually apply the whole car, take a short break and grab a drink, then can come back to it)

5 - Use cheapy buffer, a little bit of pressure, and some work time to remove.



Then I'll clean everything by hand again. I've never had any problems.





This is the buffer:

Also, I've used this on 2 Jetta's and a Golf (Platinum Grey, Black, and Reflex Silver), and loved them all after it.

 

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Reflex silver is my favorite VW color. My white looks nice but it's difficult to tell that I have worked my butt off to polish and so on. The white just looks nice all the time. The AIO that I just put on gave the car a different color. It now looks like shiny 2% milk. I am torn as to whether I like the look. (It's not bad) I am going to try a coat of sg over the AIO and then P21S. I would have done it already but ran short on time. Maybe Friday.



Do I need to wait after the SG before applying P21S?



:thx

 

[enim]

24 hours or so. And wash it lightly before the p21s, EVEN if you don't drive it.

 

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..Do I need to wait after the SG before applying P21S?

I doubt it, but I don't know for sure.



I'd *absolutely* get manylayers of KSG on there before topping though (but then *I* wouldn't top it as it'll preclude adding more KSG later and I like just refreshing the KSG when it needs it).



Oh, and you brought up a good point about colors like white. While it's not all that hard to keep them looking good in the ~75-80% range, if you treat them the wayt you might a *black* car, and get them into the >90% range the difference can be amazing.

 

[enim]

Just to back up my answer a little, Klasse SG is more a sealant than a wax, so it takes some time to harden. I've heard of people doing it in 8 hours and being fine, I like to wait to make sure that its completly hardened before I top it - which I rarely do.

 

[imported_Ivan Rajic]

Do I need to wait after the SG before applying P21S?



:thx

I'd just wait until your next wash or wax time... for my M3, and previous cars, I apply a coat of KSG weekly until I have 3-4 coats, then the next wash I apply P21S

 

[BIOLINK]

I'd just wait until your next wash or wax time... for my M3, and previous cars, I apply a coat of KSG weekly until I have 3-4 coats, then the next wash I apply P21S

Sounds good! Thanks.

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OK, time for the update. I went over the entire car with AIO. Then, I re-applied SG very thin with a moist MF. This time things went very smoothly. I did not find it necessary to use QD, though. I followed up with a coat of P21S. The results are amazing. If I could only figure out a way to photograph my white car in the AZ sun I could share the results. Maybe "How to photograph a white car" could be a thread. LOL. AIO and SG are permanently part of my collection. Thanks for the tips.



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