Street Dreams Detail - BMW 3 series coupe

I think most of us will agree......its very similar to liquid glass. It's durable, but probably better suited for older paint....or the detailer that only wishes to detail 2-4 times a year.
 
thanks detailking. is it only appropriate for the detailer who wants to detail 3 or 4 times a year because it's more durable, but less shiney or glossy than others? how does this differ (in a chemical sense, not application sense since i've already gotten a good idea of what z is like to work with from this great board) from zaino or other acrylic polishes? i only ask because ff also claims to improve with multiple layers like zaino. thanks again.
 
FF will do a nice job on a car. The consensus is that it contains abrasives (polishing agents) and solvents that will inhibit layering. It is not SUPER durable, but on par with most synthetics. Multiple coats or often appliction is pointless because successive coats strip the first one and reapply a new one. Most of us like to apply something to the car more than 3-4 times a year and get motivation out of layering and changing/improving the look of the car. So we use products that afford us to do that......
 
interesting. thanks for the info. looks like i'll be placing an order with zaino soon to put on my new car in march.
 
mp5_toronto - we got blasted by lawyers who wanted to sue us for everything when our tests first came out, because we were a lot more graphic in our descriptions of how the products worked, smelled, etc. We originally rated the products as "recommend, don't recommend"...this got us into a lot of trouble.



So, we had to avoid making any direct comments about a product's effectiveness and our recommendations. We gave grades, but we didn't say wax x is better than wax y.



If anyone wants to foot our legal bills, we'll say what we really think and share the results of our abrasiveness tests (we bought one panel and tested each product for harshness)... :)
 
I've been using Finish First on some older cars as of late. Works real nice and gives a decent shine. However, it is QUITE abrasive in my opinion. A lot of paint (red) came out on my buffing towels. Laters
 
What it proves is the products ability to pick up spray paint. Plain old gasoline would surely "outstrip" and have more black paint on the rag than any of those products. Does that mean gasoline is abraisive? Clearly not. Nu Finish says right on the bottle that it contains petroleum distalites, and probably a good deal of them. While it may be a good indicator of the harsh qualities of the medium in which the polish, wax, and cleaners is carried and applied to the car, it in no way spells abraisiveness. In my humble opinion rustoleum is in no way indicative of what it will do to an automotive finish.
 
Avalanche is right:



I used 3M IHG on my T-bird and my dad's E-150, both do not have clearcoats (pre-90s cars) and the rag was blue (cars were blue) after waxing.



And from this propeller test, the 3M IHG was the mildest.
 
I put a dab of product on a rag and with no rubbing just set it and pressed it on the propeller and let it sit there a while.........no paint.



If it was the chemicals doing the work, that would of showed it. Also, Zaino contains petroleum distillates too.............



I am going to do a round 2 of this test. Use a piece of plexiglass with each product and inspect for marring with magnification. This should show the relative harshness as well..........
 
FWIW, 3M IHG was more difficult to remove than Gold Class.



I just waxed my hood today - 1 layer of 3M IHG took about 3 times as long to remove vs. 2 layers of Meguiars Gold Class. The GC rubbed on and rubbed off, even after some of it was baked in by the sun.



I'll try Z-2 as soon as I find a local retailer in NJ.
 
I have a friend that uses Nu finish.This product is perfect for what it is,its a 2x or 3x a year wax for people who dont really car about there car but wax the keep it from looking crappy.How can you compare it to all the other fine products(meguires mothers zaino)These are people that if they see a little shine on there car they are happy detailing to them is a pain in the *** where detailing to us is piece of mind thats the difference
 
I am in North East Jersey too...........



There is a retail Zaino store in Howell on Rt 9...............



IHG needs to be wiped on and wiped off quickly. Do one panel at a time. It has no durability though.
 
I'm in Bergen County.



The IHG did cover up a LOT of scratches nicely though. I couldn't find a few nasty scratches!



I used Meguiars OVER the 3M IHG, and it appears that the Meguiars did not remove any of the IHG (my rag was almost clean after each wipe).
 
Detailking: what part of bergen?



I'm near Paramus and Hackensack.



BTW



I did a similar test on my 81 Ford T-bird (no clearcoat finish back then).



I used 3M Imperial Hand Glaze, NuFinish, and Gold Class.



The Hand Glaze took off as much paint as the NuFinish and Gold Class.



NuFinishh smelled the nastiest but removed as much paint as Hand Glaze and Gold Class.



Maybe I was doing something wrong?
 
I re-did the test with 3M IHG and NuFinish.



Both picked up the same amount of paint from the T-bird



Someone suggested using NuFinish on an older car, and this car is 22+ years old with a beat up finish.
 
metroplex, on dull oxidized paint that is 22 years old, I would think that even water would pick up a good amount of paint. If you rub your finger on the surface, do you get any paint on it?
 
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