Stop calling wheels "rims" (if you do).

Just to add to the vent. How do people barbecue on a grill. I can grill Steaks, Hamburgers, Hotdogs, Fish, etc... Not sure to how to barbecue on a grill. I will never understand how a grill is called a barbecue. Ok, I`m happy now.
 
GearHead_1 said:
Ehhh... I know what all of you mean and none of the terms bother me in the slightest though I would never include “tire” as part of a “wheel” but that’s just me. Sorry Dan, I call the inside of a wheel the barrel. I’ll make sure not to do that in future references. ;)

This is worth a look:

https://www.wheelfire.com/ccontent/...s-definition-and-anatomy.cfm#Parts-of-a-Wheel
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My Other Brother, El Reductor !!!
Hope you and yours had great holidays !

It is simply the way words have evolved since their beginning...:) I still call it a "Crescent" Wrench.. :) My Dad also called it that way..

My first definition of a "barrel", as a child, was a wooden container, different sizes, that sometimes, wild and crazy people took a ride inside of, over the Niagara Falls... :)

That is a very nice link, thank you for posting it..

Took awhile to find out more info, but since this company was founded in 2007, or course, the term of the inner wheel will always be a barrel...
I just have to keep my brain translator charged up at all times to decipher.. :)
Dan F
 
Accumulator said:
And quit calling magazines "clips" and (as Coleroad noted) engines "motors", and and and....you dadnabbed kids!

But seriously, words mean things, and IMO the broader and more precise one`s vocabulary the greater the potential for concept formation and thinking in general.
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Mi Amigo !
Hope its been a great new year !!!

I can see where it perhaps starting getting confused, when the M-1 Garand, the rifle my Dad used in WWII used Clips to feed into the top of the magazine of that rifle..

Can remember a few of those very early war series shows on TV ( Combat) I think was one of them.. Perhaps we heard them talk about being "out of clips", "I need another clip", etc., that was actually correct for that rifle of that time...

Then as weaponry changed and evolved, it was more "magazines" and no more "clips", right ?

Perhaps, it is "faster" to say a 1 syllable word than a 3 syllable word??? :)
clip vs magazine, barrel, vs inner wheel, etc...

Dan F
 
Tc99m said:
Just to add to the vent. How do people barbecue on a grill. I can grill Steaks, Hamburgers, Hotdogs, Fish, etc... Not sure to how to barbecue on a grill. I will never understand how a grill is called a barbecue. Ok, I`m happy now.
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YES!!!

Barbecue is when you slap sauce on a cut of meat, bird, or sausage you just grilled, smoked, roasted, etc. Drives me up the wall too.
 
Speaking from native Australia :) we tend to bbq more than we grill. Grilling is using hot plate to cook from one side eg burgers at burger king. Bbq is using a grill with a lid so cooking is not only using the grill plate but also a hot air convection process.

Cheers

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PoweredByJenga said:
Speaking from native Australia :) we tend to bbq more than we grill. Grilling is using hot plate to cook from one side eg burgers at burger king. Bbq is using a grill with a lid so cooking is not only using the grill plate but also a hot air convection process.

Cheers

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Seeing that you`re south of the Equator, we`ll give you a pass on using the incorrect terms. B)

Seriously though, in Australia is it common to have cuts of meat smoked or grilled, er...BBQ`d...and then covered in a BBQ sauce? If so, what would you call this? I won`t get too specific on the ingredients of BBQ sauce since that alone can result in perfectly rational people start fighting depending on where in the US they live.

This discussion takes on a whole knew dimension when it goes international!
 
SOOOO ..... Why do we drive on parkways and park in driveways then? (OK, OK, Captain Obvious, it`s an old and oft-repeated "observation" on the semantics of the English language)
Wheel barrel (Not to be confused Wheelbarrow; a human-powered single-wheeled hauling tub) is a Vehicle Tire Hub Inner Diameter or VTHID....(Not to be confused with the Credit Card!)
 
When I was working they had a guy to come and teach a mechanical class to us. This was 15 years ago. His other job he built carburetors for pro stock cars. He told us a bolt is not a bolt unless there is a nut attached to it. So what everybody calls a bolt is really a screw. I had never heard that one before.
 
Fishroes said:
When I was working they had a guy to come and teach a mechanical class to us. This was 15 years ago. His other job he built carburetors for pro stock cars. He told us a bolt is not a bolt unless there is a nut attached to it. So what everybody calls a bolt is really a screw. I had never heard that one before.
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Makes sense to me ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Then what happens when you read or hear people talk about all the "Bolt On" accessories available for their - vehicle/s, etc....

Dan F
 
Lonnie said:
Isn`t an automotive vehicle (Not car, according to Coatings=crack) WHEEL technically a "rim" and "tire" assembly?
I doubt anyone would refer to a rim as a tire hub, when in essence, that is what it is.
Semantics and technicalities aside, I will continue to use the word rim.

In mechanical engineering world of threaded fasteners, the word bolt and screw are used interchangeable, but they are different. Most mechanical savvy individuals will refer to a hex-headed "cap screw" as a bolt, but, technically it is not; it is, indeed a hex-head cap-screw, especially when you add the grade level and precision (hardness, and strength characteristics, and thread precision/fit) to it.
Here is how I had to technically describe a common "bolt" in an engineering bill of material:
Screw, Cap, Hex Head, 1/2-13NC-2A x 1-1/2 Lg, Grd 3, Stl, Znc Oxide
Try verbalizing that description verbatim to the floor clerk/associate at the local hardware store and see what you get (besides a look of complete bewilderment!)
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I agree I thought it wheel was referring to the whole set up


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Well wether it’s a rim or a wheel. Sonax has you covered

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What do you say to when refering to the wheel+tire?

As english is not my first language it can be confuseing with the technical words. If I use google translate on what we say to wheel+tire=? And the ? is the wheel=rim+tire. So the wheel+tire=wheel is confuseing to describe when doing what when cleaning the wheels. Then on the other hand if I where to to be useing google translate to translate the whole sentences. You would have a very confuseing reading LOL. And I`m sure you can notice in my writing that the english is not my native language. The build up of sentences is different in my swedish language. In school we start to learn english when we are 9-10 years old. And keep learning that until we graduate.

Here is a guy who moved from the US to Sweden. And doing some Youtube videos about the differences between our countries. If you are interested to see and hear about them check him out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RBUZAHxnt0I
 
Accumulator said:
And quit calling magazines "clips" and (as Coleroad noted) engines "motors", and and and....you dadnabbed kids!

But seriously, words mean things, and IMO the broader and more precise one`s vocabulary the greater the potential for concept formation and thinking in general.
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I learned the term “clips” in the military. It was used interchangeably with magazine. Maybe because it was shorter? Or that it “clips” in? But when we talked about capacity it was always magazine. “Toss me a clip” vs “load the magazine”. Especially when we were talking about machine guns.
 
Fishroes said:
..[arguably]...a bolt is not a bolt unless there is a nut attached to it. So what everybody calls a bolt is really a screw.
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That`s what I was taught in Shop Class back in the `70s but my old (1959) Common Fasteners chart does *not* differentiate that way..I can`t really figure out how it *does* differentiate between `em! Now you`ve piqued my interest :o

rlmccarty2000 said:
I learned the term “clips” in the military. It was used interchangeably with magazine.
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What the Mil uses is good enough for me, especially since clips are awfully rare these days (excepting stripper clip packaging of bulk ammo).

I don`t *really* make a big deal out of this stuff as long as everybody knows what`s being said ;) Heh heh, I have had Instructors rip me a new one for saying "grips" instead of "handgun stocks" and I thought it was kinda goofy-pedantic since many makers of `em name their Co.s "..Grips".

SWETM said:
What do you say to when refering to the wheel+tire?
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In my Detailing/Maintenance Log I use the abbreviation "W/T" because I got tired of writing Wheel & Tire all the time. Wonder what people who (really) make a big deal out of such stuff do say?!?

I`m sure you can notice in my writing that the english is not my native language.
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Eh, IMO your command of English is better than that of many Americans, at least with regard to my understanding what you`re saying without rereading it a few times.
 
rlmccarty2000 said:
I learned the term “clips” in the military. It was used interchangeably with magazine. Maybe because it was shorter? Or that it “clips” in? But when we talked about capacity it was always magazine. “Toss me a clip” vs “load the magazine”. Especially when we were talking about machine guns.
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Similar background here. I also noticed it depended on the age of the instructor, branch of service, and the type/size of the weapons being discussed.

For the M9 everyone said "clips". For the M4/M16, clip and magazine were used interchangeably, with the younger instructors and users of the weapons calling them magazines or "mags". When talking about missles, gun rounds, or bomb storage (aircraft carrier) on naval ships the term magazine was used. Storage for similar weapons stored on land were either magazines or bunkers.
 
Desertnate- Gee, I hadn`t heard "magazine" used that way since..I dunno when! Must`ve been the `70s, now I just see it in books.
 
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