Still skeptical about ONR?

Ive used both and haven't seen any major difference in performance. I think 4-1 smells alot better then ONR, and I still use ONR, for a few reasons allready mentioned. ONR has been one of the best additions to my product lineup.



Now If only it would warm up enough so the water doesn't freeze on the car...:) The car looks great, love the color!
 
grease said:
Now If only it would warm up enough so the water doesn't freeze on the car...:) The car looks great, love the color!
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It just did by me...25 degrees outside usually means 32 in my unheated attached garage. My cars were dirtier than your Mazda after a week and a half, and a ski trip. ONR did the job admirably! I couldn't believe the sand and dirt in the bottom of the bucket when I was done.
 
Pats300zx said:
Great video Mike.



Were you using one bucket or two? I usually have two buckets with one to rinse the mitt clean. I am wondering if thats overkill.
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As a moderator, you should know that the word "overkill" is not allowed to describe an Autopian's method.:LOLOL
 
Watched the video, and is it me, or shouldn't ONR passes be shorter with more rinsing of the mitt so as to not drag salt/dirt across the paint? Seems like a lot of longer passes with a lot of grit as a potential swirl generator to me???
 
JustinDetail said:
Watched the video, and is it me, or shouldn't ONR passes be shorter with more rinsing of the mitt so as to not drag salt/dirt across the paint? Seems like a lot of longer passes with a lot of grit as a potential swirl generator to me???
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I don't think so. It was obvious in the video that he was flipping the mitt over to expose a clean area to the finish.
 
Pats300zx said:
I don't think so. It was obvious in the video that he was flipping the mitt over to expose a clean area to the finish.
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I noticed that too, but taking even a clean mitt and wiping acorss a 3' door in one direction, and then another swipe across is not the best way to reduce marring. That's 6 feet....I don't travel 6' of uncleaned panel with a foam gun, let alone a rinseless wash. Imo of course.
 
Pats300zx said:
Great video Mike.



Were you using one bucket or two? I usually have two buckets with one to rinse the mitt clean. I am wondering if thats overkill.
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Thanks Pat! Means a lot coming from you!



The first few times I used ONR, I was very cautious using 2 buckets, both with grit guards, etc. After a few times, I realized that I didn't need 2 buckets. Then I realized that the grit guards take up a lot of height in the bucket and when you only have 2 gallons of solution, you don't want something restricting 1/4 of the solution.



So, now I use 1 bucket and no grit guard (please don't ban me...hehe). I've seen no signs of marring or scratching. I even used this process on the Mazda3 that I posted pictures of. If it doesn't scratch then, it's a winner.



I think you'll find that 1 bucket is just fine.
 
JustinDetail said:
Watched the video, and is it me, or shouldn't ONR passes be shorter with more rinsing of the mitt so as to not drag salt/dirt across the paint? Seems like a lot of longer passes with a lot of grit as a potential swirl generator to me???
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Definitely a valid question. I suppose I could have used shorter strokes. However, I just kind of do it by how the surface feels as I move my mitt across it. ONR does a very good job of lubricating the surface. One the Mazda3 wash, yes I did shorter strokes. I also try to rinse the mitt a lot as well. As you saw, I rinsed it out prior to doing the lower portion of the door, which was the dirtier.



EDIT: Another thing I do is wash into the next panel so that when I dry the panel I'm actually focusing on, my drying towels don't pick-up dirt from the next panel. Wash 1.25 panel and dry 1 panel, if that makes sense. You can kinda see it in the video.
 
+1 on the 1 bucket method...works really well with a grout sponge too. I enjoy doing a rinseless wash so much these days I'm not sure what to do with the gallon of car shampoo sitting in the garage (and I liked the DG 901 wash a lot).
 
mshu7 said:
Definitely a valid question. I suppose I could have used shorter strokes. However, I just kind of do it by how the surface feels as I move my mitt across it. ONR does a very good job of lubricating the surface. One the Mazda3 wash, yes I did shorter strokes. I also try to rinse the mitt a lot as well. As you saw, I rinsed it out prior to doing the lower portion of the door, which was the dirtier.



EDIT: Another thing I do is wash into the next panel so that when I dry the panel I'm actually focusing on, my drying towels don't pick-up dirt from the next panel. Wash 1.25 panel and dry 1 panel, if that makes sense. You can kinda see it in the video.
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Thanks for addressing my question, I'll be giving ONR a whirl when it comes next week and I'll try out a few ways.
 
ricka said:
+1 on the 1 bucket method...works really well with a grout sponge too. I enjoy doing a rinseless wash so much these days I'm not sure what to do with the gallon of car shampoo sitting in the garage (and I liked the DG 901 wash a lot).
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When it is warm, about once every 5-7 washes I will drag out the hoses. I don't know why, just fun to go old school once in a while.
 
JustinDetail - No problem. I hope you like it.



bert31 - I tend to do the same. This time of year you just need to give the car a good pressure wash (ie - rinsing) because of all the sand and salt that get caked into the cracks and crevices of the vehicle.
 
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