SPEED used with a rotary, yes I did it.

IHA Mark

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First off I would like to say that I hardly ever use a rotary, they are generally reserved for me on vehicles with only very severe damage that a DA would just take too long to correct.



That being said, I had a client of mine contact me regarding detailing his Cadillac Escalade before trade in a couple of days ago. My schedule was already swamped but he is a good client so I scheduled him in for a late afternoon appointment.



He just wanted a good interior cleaning and for it to be clean and shiny, and the price reflected that. We agreed on one polishing step and done.



Pulled it into the driveway, and straight away was terrified. This (black) SUV had some of the worst swirls and RIDS I have seen. I was only getting paid for one polishing step, and instantly knew that my regular PC with an Optimum MF pad and POLISH was not going to cut it. If I was going to correct this completely with my DA I would have started with my black lambswool pads, then stepped down to probably a 3D orange pad, then finished with an Optimum MF pad. 3 steps however, was not an option, so something off the wall had to be done if I was going to get a good result here.



So I kinda went off the deep end and decided to go for the rotary and SPEED, just to see what happened.



I pulled my DeWalt DWP849X out of its crate(in my detailing trailer), slapped a white 7.5 CCS polishing pad on, primed the pad(yeah yeah, but I don't take chances with a rotary), and started to work.



I was simply amazed. I started on the hood at 1400 using just one pass per section, and was cutting up at least 80% of the defects, and doing it in half the time it would take with a DA. I finished the whole vehicle in about 45(!!!) minutes, and even inspected with florescents and my trusty LED for holograms, but saw none.



The paint looked dark, extremely deep and wet, and relatively swirl and RIDS free. I accredit SPEED for much of this, Dewalt for some, and my own detailing prowess for a tiny bit. :)



If you want to see a pic of the vehicle, visit my facebook page here: Visual Pro Detailing - Johnston City, IL - Professional Services | Facebook (hey and like my page while your at if if you don't care!)



Sorry for the crappy pic, not only was I in a huge hurry and did not have time to snap close ups, but the sun was almost set and all I had was my cellphone. You can see the gist of it though, the vehicle looked decent and the client was happy too.



Speed is a great product, and helpful for "in the trench" situations where you just need some fast, nice looking work done.
 
Well done with SPEED. I'm more and more impressed as I use it.



I now use it as a finishing polish before NS.



BTW, I use a Makita BO 6040 in forced rotation. :first:
 
Speed really has a nice amount of cut in it, yet it finishes out well. You do have to be careful though, Poxy contains ingredients that fill.
 
Dan said:
Speed really has a nice amount of cut in it, yet it finishes out well. You do have to be careful though, Poxy contains ingredients that fill.



Correct, Speed does fill, confirmed on numerous different cars. I haven't used it with a rotary though, but I haven't used any "AIO" with a rotary either. Not sure if Poxy by itself fills or not, but it would make sense that it does since Speed contains it.
 
Dan said:
Speed really has a nice amount of cut in it, yet it finishes out well. You do have to be careful though, Poxy contains ingredients that fill.



This is probably true, but if you are just using it for a 1 step or simple correction, what is the harm with a little fill. :)



Any time I use Speed I'm never looking for perfection anyhow.
 
Nothing wrong with fill at all, as long as you and the customer are aware of it. Just pointing out the fact that it finished out so great with a rotary, was for a reason. So many people blast dealers for their BC2 (and the like) "wheel jobs".
 
Dan said:
Nothing wrong with fill at all, as long as you and the customer are aware of it. Just pointing out the fact that it finished out so great with a rotary, was for a reason. So many people blast dealers for their BC2 (and the like) "wheel jobs".



Agreed. I think one of the bigger differences between pros and hacks are letting customers be aware of the difference between correction and cover up. I always make sure 100% that my clients know what I am doing and why I am doing it when I use anything with fillers.
 
IHA Mark said:
Agreed. I think one of the bigger differences between pros and hacks are letting customers be aware of the difference between correction and cover up. I always make sure 100% that my clients know what I am doing and why I am doing it when I use anything with fillers.



Very important point. Full correction on well driven vehicles every time can lead to disaster.
 
I have always loved rotary. both are used with a DB for correction but I have another one for jewelling work. rotary is my favourite jewelling tool before I finish with an RO
 
a rotary overall is no match compared to a forced rotation DA or the Dynabrade 6138 series DA accessory for the correction step with any pad. forced corrects quicker but can still leave hologramming/marring if you do not slow down as you go. my experience over 17 years has told me that the rotary blows a random orbital away for Jewelling due to the shearing action. really glasses out the paint giving excellent depth, colour and clarity improvement



forced for jewelling is closer to rotary but I dont think it's quite as good. I started with a rotary so am used to it

though I do finish with an RO to guarantee no issues ever
 
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