Speaker question

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tlak

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I just bough Infinity KAPPA692.7I speakers which I am going to install at the rear of my Honda 2004 Accord Coupe. Speakers have external crossovers. Manual instructs that crossover should go in-line with amplifier output and is required for proper operation. I have Honda stack radio and not planning to change that, I am not going to add external amplifier either.

Do I need to install crossovers? Should I install crossovers?

thanks
 
Yes, you need the crossovers. The Kappas don't have any internal one, so you're speakers would sound like crap. All they mean is that you connect whatever factory speaker wire was driving the speakers you're replacing to the crossovers and connect the crossovers to the speakers using the spades.



Great speakers, BTW. I replaced all of my factory speakers with Kappas. :bigups
 
hm thanks

I was thinking about not having tweeter used at all at the back since I have stock once at the front and my Infinity reference in the front doors have them too. I wonder if I would risk damaging kapas if I did not use crossovers - not use tweeters.
 
I agree with drewski - install as per instructions provided by manufacturer. Infinity makes awesome speakers; they've spent a ton making them sound the way they do, so don't try to second guess them.



I swapped all 6 factory speakers in my car with Infinity Reference units, keeping my factory headunit (6 disk changer + Sirius Satellite) and the improvement in sound quality is just outstanding.
 
I agree with all above- I've had a set of Reference Series in my first truck, running off a 40x4 watt head unit and they were crystal clear. In my '98 I was adamant about using only Infinity, so I have the Kappa 6.5" midranges with a set of 1" silk dome tweeters I installed flush on the top of my door panels. I mounted the crossovers inside the door panel where the power window motors would have mounted to the doorframe, had the truck been equipped with those instead of the manual cranks.



I noticed significant improvement going from the stock HU to my Alpine 9811 and all the power it provided. I've been told the Kappa series really shine with about 100 watts amplification going to each channel.
 
Use the cross over. Don't use the tweeter if you don't want to. Tweeters in the rear can ruin the sound stage. Why not use the mids at the rear and the tweeters at the front instead of the factory ones?
 
Kappas which I have for the rear have tweeters (together) in them they are adjastable -/+3db.

I have stock tweeters at the front (windshield area and I'm not going to replace them). Front door are infinity referance (2 way - mid range ) series and they have tweeter - no crossover only capacitor. I can not adjast reference tweeters. I thought about not conecting crossovers at the back at all that would diseble tweeter. I don't want the sound to be too sweet due to too many tweeters. I thouhg that rear speakers should be mostly for base. I am getting confused.
 
The tweeters in your Kappas are much sweeter sounding than those in the References. I tried disabling the tweeter on a pair of my Kappas, and the speakers didn't work. You have to run both drivers or nothing at all. I'm not sure why it's designed that way, but it is. My friend just covered his tweeters with pieces of Dynamat. Whatever works, I guess.:)



Try covering up your tweeters in the doors. Then you will essentially have a component system in the front soundstage. Mid/bass in door and tweeter by the windshield. By doing that, you'll have one set of woofers and tweeters in the front AND back. It should be easier to tweak your sound that way. Just a thought...
 
ok thanks I will install crossovers at the back than, probably adjast tweeters as needed. Only have to find right spot to mount crossovers. Have anyone done it in honda 2004 accord coupe -just wonder.

thanks everyone. :)
 
I just wrapped mine in foam and 'threw' them in the speaker opening. They don't make any rattling noise, so I guess I'm okay! It'd be a bear to actually mount those things inside somewhere. IMO, it just wasn't worth the effort.
 
Just a little up-date. I mounted Kappas at the back with crossovers (used zip ties and some padding foam) Installation came out very nice. Kappas are mounted only by 2 screws (other 2 did not align), but it holds and does not rattle. I had to adjust tweeters in kappas because with +3db gain sound was little too sweet fro my taste. At the front I installed reference speakers (had to use 1/4 inch spacer, also lined doors with dynamit). Everything came out excellent, sounds perfect (I don't need an amp). Seams like the sound (not loud though) kills Honda rattling, squeaking problems. WOW you should see stock speakers, and what is behind all the plastic Honda got accustom to. I didn't expect 27k car would be soo cheap designed.

I miss my fords :)
 
Glad everything turned out well. Those speakers are also very reliable and will give you years and years of sweet music!:bigups



Honda? Cheaply designed? Worse than Fords? I've never heard that before! Your Accord is the benchmark(w/the Camry) for midsized cars! Our Pilot is leaps and bounds better-built than my friend's Sport Trac.



Oh well, maybe you got an anomaly?
 
I won't discredit the durability of Japanese designed, American built automobiles. I will reject the notion that Honda, Isuzu, or any other foreign car I've ever sat in has better audio systems than GM (often Bose) or Ford (often JBL). I think that is the point above that was trying to be made.
 
Oh, I see. I misunderstood. I thought he was commenting on the whole car. My bad.:)



BTW, the "Bose" speakers are usually just $.37 Mexican OEM speakers with a Bose stamp on them! I only know this after examining many factory speaker systems! My grandma's Lincoln does really have JBL speakers, although they can't compare to the aftermarket JBLs.
 
I was referring to Accord as a whole car, but that’s a story for different forum.

Hm I though my car was one of few, when I looked around it did not seam to be.

Honda made a name for itself with good products over past years, now the name gives them edge over domestic cars not the design.
 
drewski59 said:
I replaced all of my factory speakers with Kappas. :bigups
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I'd do the same if I didn't have a Bose system in my car. Stock Bose speakers are 1 ohm and Kappas are 4 ohm. I'd hardly be able to hear them without changing amps too. Suprisingly, just switching the head unit to a Pioneer DEH6400 made such a massive improvement in sound-imagine! Bose speakers with clear, delicate highs!-that I can't see spending an additional $800-1000 on a good four channel amp and Kappas all around (6 x8 for the doors and 6 x 9 for the rear deck) for a minimal improvement in sound quality.



BTW, I did have Kappas in my Honda and loved how they sounded. I did use the supplied external crossovers with them.
 
Scottwax said:
I'd do the same if I didn't have a Bose system in my car. Stock Bose speakers are 1 ohm and Kappas are 4 ohm.
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I know what you mean. I desperately wanted to trash the Bose system in my '99 Miata (absolutely the worst sounding system I've ever heard in a car!) and then I found out that the speakers are only......wait for it......half an ohm!! Yes, 0.5 ohm impedance on the Miata Bose speakers. Fortunately a company called Clearwater makes straight up replacements for them, which I swapped in, and the improvement was simply awesome. The bass is no longer muddy, the highs are now clear, and there's actually a midrange with real content, and an actual soundstage! What a nutty concept. Oh, and I can now hear the darn thing with the top down at 80mph.
 
Mike-in-Orange said:
I know what you mean. I desperately wanted to trash the Bose system in my '99 Miata (absolutely the worst sounding system I've ever heard in a car!) and then I found out that the speakers are only......wait for it......half an ohm!! Yes, 0.5 ohm impedance on the Miata Bose speakers. Fortunately a company called Clearwater makes straight up replacements for them, which I swapped in, and the improvement was simply awesome. The bass is no longer muddy, the highs are now clear, and there's actually a midrange with real content, and an actual soundstage! What a nutty concept. Oh, and I can now hear the darn thing with the top down at 80mph.
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Ask any audiophile about Bose, and they'll just act like this

:spit:



Bose is just a brand name now. They used to make decent speakers back in the 70s, but now their marketing is the only good thing about 'em.
 
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