Some Opinions on LSPs to Try Next

[imported_GMCloud27]

I'm putting myself through quite a headache in this money-sucking quest :chuckle: of finding the "best" in LSPs.



Between these products and budget is flexible for all of them but preferably against Swissol's Smaragd, which product would you choose to be best to test? I'm just a bit tired of reading through pages and pages of people going for and against these four products so I figured the easiest way to make up my mind: a good ole poll.



I always enjoy and appreciate each person's opinion and thoughts and a many thanks. I am just a bit low on my LSPs and I have been using JW Prime & AJ for quite some time now for my clients and would love to get back to carnaubas (and Zaino as the exception).





For reference, I own and use the following LSPs:

Natty's Blue, JW AJ, SG, S100 & P21S, Soft99 Premium (Japan)

 

[Bioman]

I vote Victoria's, because its the next wax I am going to try. I really like 5050 and Victoria's supposedly looks much better.

 

[maxi]

This My Best Lsp

1-zymol Destiny:bounce



2-zymol Concourse:2thumbs:



3-p21 :xyxthumbs



4-pinnacle souveran:drool:



5-zymol carbon

 

[imported_Nimble]

Keep using what you have, unless money started growing on trees, replacing what you already have with the same but more money is kinda a waste, no? IMO of course.

 

[maxi]

Keep using what you have, unless money started growing on trees, replacing what you already have with the same but more money is kinda a waste, no? IMO of course.

nimble didy tried befor ? zymol carbon is not to high$$ ???!!

 

[imported_GMCloud27]

Thanks guys for your thoughts so far--I agree a lot in that what I have does the job well in most areas but this purchase is more of a "ah, lets expierment with something a little higher in price and see if it's justifiable for the price" and it would also be a precursor to a true boutique wax such as Destiny. It's hard charging $300+ for a detail and I'm putting on JW AJ when I could be adding boutique waxes and taking a hit profit wise (since I'd cut that into the price tier) but a nice mental thought behind each job and being able to charge an extra hundred for a Swissol product



Seems like the best choice so far is working with Zaino which is a system I am curious on from all the great reviews. As for Zymol Carbon, I did forget to add that option in and not sure if I can edit a poll :?

 

[wannafbody]

Zaino CS- very unique product

 

[imported_GMCloud27]

It's funny you mentioned that since I was just reading about it on Zaino's site right now and indeed it does look to be a very unique product. I'm going to do a bit of research on the topics here before I also consider that into the products list.



Thanks wannafbody.

 

[sspeer]

If you're wanting it for extra $$$. Ask your customers if they'd be interested and if so, which wax? Which of the waxes would have greatest cred for your clients? I think you could market these waxes to sound super-premium.



Zaino, Souveran, and Zymol probably have brand recognition



Victoria's and the thought of fingertip application sounds $$$



You could also make some purple wax and market it as a custom blended product



Maybe consider 'Polycharging' products as a super-premium service??

 

[imported_GMCloud27]

Oh definately Sspeer--last year I did detailing as a very small side-job (~1 car/2 weeks) and charged about $350/job with JW AJ. This year I'll be upping detailing considerably and also setting up propper price tiers and packages--The use of Swissol and Zymol will be adding anywhere from $100+ to the base of 300 due to their name recognition and wanting "the best" while Souveran I figure I can add $75.00 for those who want a step up in my carnauba package tier.



Great to see another IL guy too!

 

[DM101]

Tried them all PS w/ polycharger looks best on "MY" car. It suits my taste. But each person view is different.

 

[imported_GMCloud27]

Ah thanks MDRX8, I've been hoping you'll see this thread (you probably remember when I was trying out Soft99 and seeing if it's the "new wax")--I'll read up on Polycharger since that's a product that seems to have appeared out-of-nowhere since I don't recall the product in the '06 season and have heard a lot of good reviews so far on it.

 

[mschuyler]

Zaino CS- very unique product

Just used it on two vehicles, one brand new 2007 Silverado Victory Red never had anything on it, one coupla years old, 2004 black Acura RL, with Crystal Guard on it.



Used Z2/XFX, then CS. VERY impressed with the new vehicle. Rained that night, beaded right up. When I drove it the next day the water on the hood kind of "fell off" and left a dry vehicle!



Not as good with the black Acura. I'm going to have to take it down and start over with it, I think.

 

[imported_DieselMDX]

I voted souveran just purchased the 2 for 100 deal from Ag and used it on one panel with AJT as base, WOW what a diff. Depth and wetness is IMO the best i have personally seen. Only drawback is it is not very durable, so polycharger would deff be a good idea to make a better option for your customers.



Wow that is some serious money for a detail

 

[imported_GMCloud27]

Great info from both of you two and a many thanks. I may hold off on the CS for a little while to let it sink into the community longer but I am curious on the 2 for a 100 deal from AG. I'll look again but I couldn't find that promo going since my old vendor for Souveran is out-of-stock and rose their price by $10.00.



I wish I could edit the poll too since Amazon just politely gave me $540.00 so that can warrant Swissol Smaragd and Zymol Concours also.



Regarding the detail costs, yes and thank you too--A lot of it is marketing and pyschological and this year I'll be going a bit more full-pledged. A detailer can either go volume and lower prices or work in a niche market at high prices and low volume (and less physical wear) but you risk greater business awareness by volume customers (networking) and a more steady flow of income versus say 3 clients at 350.00/detail one week and then 1 400.00 the next (but keep in mind I was doing this very lightly last year).



I find it really interesting that Z2 w/Z8 has been the reigning champion most of the days this poll's been up and I find it very informative to listen in on both sides.