Soaps for washing coated surfaces

DaveT435 said:
I’ve used McKee’s Si02 wash which I like. I definitely can’t wash my black car in the Texas sun without spotting though. I really like Feynlab Pure soap.
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I too like Mckees SiO2 soap, good price especially in bulk.

ive also used PBL Coating Shampoo and while it seems to restore coating properties pretty well, I hesitate to vouch for it due to price (although buying 32oz during a 25% off sale makes it less painful - $45 for 32oz I believe). It’s also very concentrated at 0.5oz / 2gal.
 
Just tried optimum 1st time after coating. Had great lubricity and rinsed well. Will be alternating between this and reset


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I think I`ll try the Reset and Hyper-wash, I just don`t need that much. I want it because I will be using a foam gun, and I hear the Reset doesn`t foam much, but the Hyper wash does.

On a related topic, does anyone know what Car pro Reload is? Is it like a sealant for coatings? Does it make them last longer? Is it only for ceramic coatings? I have an opportunity to get a small free bottle.
 
agtjamesb007 said:
I think I`ll try the Reset and Hyper-wash, I just don`t need that much. I want it because I will be using a foam gun, and I hear the Reset doesn`t foam much, but the Hyper wash does.

On a related topic, does anyone know what Car pro Reload is? Is it like a sealant for coatings? Does it make them last longer? Is it only for ceramic coatings? I have an opportunity to get a small free bottle.
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It is a sio2 sealant made for topping coatings.
It can be used as a stand alone. I have read that it will make last longer but don’t know. Their are better ones out their like Polish Angel Cosmic and Viking spritz’s, kamikaze overcoat, IGL Premier, shine supply Clutch and a whole slew of others....


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Is there a reason to just not use Reset 100% of the time for washing coated vehicles?

Have a big jug in the way, was just gonna use it for all washes on some of our cars.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Is there a reason to just not use Reset 100% of the time for washing coated vehicles?

Have a big jug in the way, was just gonna use it for all washes on some of our cars.
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I think the only reason not to use it all the time would be if you had a wax/sealant. It may degrade those. For your coated vehicles it should be perfectly fine. You might want to double check with the shop that did your wife`s vette to be sure it won`t affect the PPF. I think it will be fine but I like to always be cautious. The other reason I think people don`t use it for every wash is price.
 
audicoupej said:
I think the only reason not to use it all the time would be if you had a wax/sealant. It may degrade those. For your coated vehicles it should be perfectly fine. You might want to double check with the shop that did your wife`s vette to be sure it won`t affect the PPF. I think it will be fine but I like to always be cautious. The other reason I think people don`t use it for every wash is price.
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Thanks. The Vette has Kamikaze Film Surface Coating over the PPF so will likely be using the Kamikaze Anti-Aging shampoo on that for the most part. The Reset I plan on using on my SPS Graphene coated car and once I redo wife`s winter in Miyabi + Zipang, will likely stick with the synergistic Kami-Shampoo even though it`s ridiculously/stupid expensive.

Reset will also be used for washing occasional other coated cars. Generally have been a Gyeon Bathe guy in the past cuz I liked the bottles and color (and it never did me wrong) but I just get some kinda funny feeling that Reset is more ?powerful? than Bathe. And it has an oddly pleasing odor which is kinda strange cuz the smell reminds me of a dentist`s office. Also nice that Reset comes in big 4L jugs (which are unfortunately on backorder at AG) but will wait for order to process and go from there.

Just kinda curious as usually when Reset is mentioned, it`s often in conjunction with another shampoo and Reset is only used occasionally in normal routine.

The SPS Coating is very nice in that it stays pretty clean but after the first wash I noticed that some baked on dirty water spots took a little bit more attention to remove; they removed cleanly while leaving no trace despite my initial thought of "Oh, that`s the kinda water spot that usually leaves a mark". My daily driver (black Honda Accord) now sits outside 24/7 in addition to its 80 mile a day freeway commute thru endless construction zones so I was looking for a bit more `powerful` shampoo than Bathe and I don`t know exactly why I feel Reset > Bathe but that`s just the feeling I get.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Thanks. The Vette has Kamikaze Film Surface Coating over the PPF so will likely be using the Kamikaze Anti-Aging shampoo on that for the most part. The Reset I plan on using on my SPS Graphene coated car and once I redo wife`s winter in Miyabi + Zipang, will likely stick with the synergistic Kami-Shampoo even though it`s ridiculously/stupid expensive.

Reset will also be used for washing occasional other coated cars. Generally have been a Gyeon Bathe guy in the past cuz I liked the bottles and color (and it never did me wrong) but I just get some kinda funny feeling that Reset is more ?powerful? than Bathe. And it has an oddly pleasing odor which is kinda strange cuz the smell reminds me of a dentist`s office. Also nice that Reset comes in big 4L jugs (which are unfortunately on backorder at AG) but will wait for order to process and go from there.

Just kinda curious as usually when Reset is mentioned, it`s often in conjunction with another shampoo and Reset is only used occasionally in normal routine.

The SPS Coating is very nice in that it stays pretty clean but after the first wash I noticed that some baked on dirty water spots took a little bit more attention to remove; they removed cleanly while leaving no trace despite my initial thought of "Oh, that`s the kinda water spot that usually leaves a mark". My daily driver (black Honda Accord) now sits outside 24/7 in addition to its 80 mile a day freeway commute thru endless construction zones so I was looking for a bit more `powerful` shampoo than Bathe and I don`t know exactly why I feel Reset > Bathe but that`s just the feeling I get.
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I think you have enough experience with both soaps to know what works best for you and which seems to have more cleaning strength. I`m more curious why no one seems to make anything that seems to be on par with reset.
You got demoted from the garage?
 
audicoupej said:
I`m more curious why no one seems to make anything that seems to be on par with reset.
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It is kinda puzzling if Reset is indeed `stronger` than other soaps. I am also giving Gtechniq W4 Citrus Foam a go as well in place of normal use of Gyeon Foam.

You got demoted from the garage?
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Yeah, my 2017, 40k mile daily driver is now (by mileage) the oldest car we have so outside it goes. Additionally, with the Vette in the garage moving wife`s 2016 Civic into the garage as well leaves us more space in the full garage and eliminates the need for shuffling cars around as much depending on what car she decides to drive that day.

While she has been pretty much daily driving the new Vette since we got it home, until I get comfortable with just how much `abuse` the PPF`d Vette can take w/ regards to water spots, bird crap baking in the sun on it and the like, kinda wanna run it as a `nice day` car only for a bit. Since I`m not yet comfortable w/ regards to the PPF`d car and it`s strengths/limitations w regards to environmental incidents, I`m tired of washing it `just in case` when it`s had a variety of weather/environmental incidents that I`ve previously had issues with....getting better letting it go longer but I also just hate it when it`s dirty. Considering the $$ investment in the PPF, better safe than sorry until I get a better handle on what it can and can`t do.

Black is a stupid color to buy but I just never learn.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
It is kinda puzzling if Reset is indeed `stronger` than other soaps. I am also giving Gtechniq W4 Citrus Foam a go as well in place of normal use of Gyeon Foam.
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That`s what I want to know. Is it (reset) marketing or actually formulated to work differently?
I`m curious how W4 works for you. I keep thinking about trying it but I literally have gallons of soap.

BudgetPlan1 said:
Yeah, my 2017, 40k mile daily driver is now (by mileage) the oldest car we have so outside it goes. Additionally, with the Vette in the garage moving wife`s 2016 Civic into the garage as well leaves us more space in the full garage and eliminates the need for shuffling cars around as much depending on what car she decides to drive that day.

While she has been pretty much daily driving the new Vette since we got it home, until I get comfortable with just how much `abuse` the PPF`d Vette can take w/ regards to water spots, bird crap baking in the sun on it and the like, kinda wanna run it as a `nice day` car only for a bit. Since I`m not yet comfortable w/ regards to the PPF`d car and it`s strengths/limitations w regards to environmental incidents, I`m tired of washing it `just in case` when it`s had a variety of weather/environmental incidents that I`ve previously had issues with....getting better letting it go longer but I also just hate it when it`s dirty. Considering the $$ investment in the PPF, better safe than sorry until I get a better handle on what it can and can`t do.

Black is a stupid color to buy but I just never learn.
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I understand, you are learning a new product plus the $$$ invested and its a brand new vehicle. That being said I think you will find the PPF can take a fair amount of abuse. Especially when it is protected by a good product.
I hear ya on black. My fiance has a 2016 Forester in Crystal black silica. It has been a pita in the butt. The car has turned into an accident magnet. Currently shopping for body shops that won`t destroy my polish and coating job.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
It is kinda puzzling if Reset is indeed `stronger` than other soaps. I am also giving Gtechniq W4 Citrus Foam a go as well in place of normal use of Gyeon Foam.



Yeah, my 2017, 40k mile daily driver is now (by mileage) the oldest car we have so outside it goes. Additionally, with the Vette in the garage moving wife`s 2016 Civic into the garage as well leaves us more space in the full garage and eliminates the need for shuffling cars around as much depending on what car she decides to drive that day.

While she has been pretty much daily driving the new Vette since we got it home, until I get comfortable with just how much `abuse` the PPF`d Vette can take w/ regards to water spots, bird crap baking in the sun on it and the like, kinda wanna run it as a `nice day` car only for a bit. Since I`m not yet comfortable w/ regards to the PPF`d car and it`s strengths/limitations w regards to environmental incidents, I`m tired of washing it `just in case` when it`s had a variety of weather/environmental incidents that I`ve previously had issues with....getting better letting it go longer but I also just hate it when it`s dirty. Considering the $$ investment in the PPF, better safe than sorry until I get a better handle on what it can and can`t do.

Black is a stupid color to buy but I just never learn.
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You will be very good with only useing Reset. If you do dilute it properly it last good too. I think that the prize point on it that makes people switch it up to a less expensive car soap. And if you have a good sealant or wax that is somewhat chemical resistant and many are. The use of Reset will not be a problem with useing it on the vehicals if you dilute it at the recommended 1:500 dilution. Cause the problems start when you ad that extra amount which many does. It`s just not needed with Reset IMO and IME as it`s high lubrication and awesome cleaning ability from it with the dilution 1:500. If anything if you wash it weekly and useing a great prewash you can test to dilute it weaker. I have used it at 1:800 and still thought it was great lubricated car soap.

If you where to use it with a foamcannon or foam gun. I would do the math on the dilution of when it comes on your paint. As in measure up on the setting you want to be useing and see how the chemical mix is diluted in both the foamcannon and the foam gun. If you are not satisfied with the amount of foam or suds from it on this setting. Honestly I would go with another option. But this is quite important to have measured out with other products too I think. Cause useing more than needed just for the foam can getting you problems with other things. Like it`s not so easy to rinse it off or even if it looks it`s rinsed off the surfactans left behind is not so visible other than water behavior. And if you are going to be doing a contact wash get a car soap made for them. If used as a prewash foam I would recommend to get a real prewash foam that you foam on and clean rinse it off. Car soap is made to be aggitated with and the prewash foamsare made to be foamed on and let it dwell so the chemicals desolves and loosen the dirt. I see it like 2 different products. And sure some can be working both in the bucket and being foamed on and washed with wash media. But prewash foam and car soap does almost 2 different things at least the way I use them.

Don`t know if it`s a price difference between Tac System Mystic Bubble and Carpro Reset car soap. But if you get the Mystic Bubble cheaper I would recommend to try it out. It`s very muchlike Reset but different color dye and smell. Other than that it`s like wash with Reset. Used the Mystic Bubble yesterday and it`s cleaning ability is top notch with great lubrication as Reset. For me the Mystic Bubble is $10 cheaper for the 1 liter bottle than Reset. But will get Reset just cause of it was the first soap that left nothing behind and I really appreciate that feature. So is nice to revisit to wash with it sometimes and I like to switch it up sometimes too LOL.
 
There’s the new WG Coating Shampoo out which has SiO2 gloss enhancers. Not sure if it’s significantly more than Mckees or not, but I could see these offerings being good for older coatings as a slight refresh when washing regularly.
 
Shampoo is one the top 3 most important product in my ~autopia~ arsenal. Mainly because I use it every 5-10 days, and what it use it for is a ~mechanical wash~. With that said, it cleans great and the lubricity I get out of it, I hope/like it helps with my ~mechanical wash~.
 
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