So you want to discount....?

buda

New member
Danny Detailer was worried. For the past 6 months his detail business revenues were really in trouble. So much so that he had to do something. He simply was not getting enough business in the door of his shop.



Not a sophisticated businessman nor a master of finances he believed that he had to do something to increase sales and other detailers he knew or met on the detail forums told him the fastest way to get more business was to discount.



He figured that since he had no business, something was better than nothing so he began to hand out flyers with big discounts off his normal prices and when people stopped in or called, he offered them substantially lower prices, even before they asked, assuming he would get the business.



Yes, he got an increase in business volume, and what even happened that the customers who got the discounts told their friends about the quality and good price, and he started getting more business, but he did not see the bigger picture.



Not being too good with numbers and not even knowing is cost of operation he was not aware from a simple accounting fact: "if a company's net profit, after all expenses is 10%, and you reduce prices by 5% that amounts to a 50% hit on the bottomline.



If your price for an exterior detail is $100 and the net profit after all expenses & salary is 10% ($10) but you discount 5% ($5.00) to get the sale that is half of your net profit. That is real money, not funny money on paper. See the point?



If your detail business is not making a profit then you do not have a business, you have a job, and often a bad paying job. A company makes a profit after all expenses are paid, including your salary, benefits, etc.



It seems that discounting is so innocent. Nothing but a few bucks off the normal price, but as you can see it can have a major impact on your making profit or even breaking even.



If you ever want to sell your detail business you have to show that it is making a profit, not just paying you a salary.



CREATE VALUE



What Danny had to learn, and maybe some of you here on Autopia have to learn is that instead of discounting you learn to give your service more value that the customer can understand. If you do that the good customer will not ask for or expect a discount.



Remember that your willingness to discount sends a message that maybe there is not as much value in your detail service.



If you have to discount then get something of equal value or greater value in return. For example, if the customer has a vehicle that someone has never sat in the back seat and it is not dirty at all and the trunk is completely clean you will not have to do as much work.



If you take credit cards, a cash payment will save you a few percentage points on the sale. For example if you have a $200 detail and the credit card company charges 2% for the transaction it is like you discounting the $200 price by $4. Not much but multiplied by several transactions a day by a month can mean a great deal of money.



Regards

Bud Abraham

DETAIL PLUS SYSTEMS
 
Exactly right. Trying to compete on price is a losing proposition. All you end up with is price shoppers with absolutely trashed vehicles who will nitpick your work to death, then go elsewhere when they find an even lower price.
 
Good point about the type of customer you attract when you offer low prices.



HOWEVER, the main point to understand from this article is how discounting effects your bottomline, your profit.



And, if you do not know what it costs you to operate your detail business you better find out.



It is not enough to operate it like a Kool Aid stand, cash in and cash out. Your detail business is far more sophisticated than that.



You have got to know your variable and fixed costs per month and what you want to take out of the business which should be as much as you would get from a job:



a. Salary

b. Paid vacation

c. Health insurance

d. Sick leave

e. Maybe retirement



Finally you have to add 10% for profit because a business is supposed to make a profit, if it does not then all you got is a job.



Regards

Bud Abraham
 
I never feel like I lost a sale when I talk a customer into leaving our conversation. I do add value, but those that are only basing their decision on the dollar amount, I do not want. Years taught me that these customers will ask for more after they agree on a price. I had a woman once say, "Well, you would think for $80 that you would clean the backs of all my leather seats." This was a price that was on a menu that clearly stated every single aspect of what she was getting. No where on ANY part of my menu did it state that I cleaned the backs of leather seats (although we did on interior or full details). This is the customer that I can now "sense" on a phone call and one that I will talk away from my service. It is not worth my time- nor can I afford this customer!



I am raising my prices next week. I am making per hour what I need now and have happy customers that get what they expect and pay what they expect to pay for what I do. I do not have enough of them yet, but I'm no longer losing money to the former customer type.



When I see mobile guys on CL and the like offering $25 washes with vacuum, I love it. I do not want any of those customers. Also, it's nice to guess how many weeks will go by before I see them offering their equipment for sale.



As a mobile guy, I can't afford anything less than $50 per visit. How many service people go to your home for $15? The last X3 I did was a glorified wash- a bit more than a typical wash. After I explained how I run my business- legally, my customer paid $80. I was happy and he received much more than a tunnel wash. These are customers that send me home happy and feeling like I'm doing a solid job. The once per year detail customer that thinks $300 is ridiculous, is quickly and professionally fired over the phone- or turned down in reality. Too many start ups feel that pressure that they have to work and get the job so they "bow" to the pressure by lowering their price to meet the customers' needs. When you ignore your business needs, you are going to hurt later- physically or financially.



Rob
 
Very good comments.



Like Rob said, I used to bow to the pressure just to get the job. That would lead to all sorts of problems. I would just get frustrated and angry, while the customer nitpicked me to death. After redoing my website, I am getting more emails and less calls. This is much better for me, as I can weed these people out without even having to talk to them.
 
buda said:
Not being too good with numbers and not even knowing is cost of operation he was not aware from a simple accounting fact: "if a company's net profit, after all expenses is 10%, and you reduce prices by 5% that amounts to a 50% hit on the bottomline.



If your price for an exterior detail is $100 and the net profit after all expenses & salary is 10% ($10) but you discount 5% ($5.00) to get the sale that is half of your net profit. That is real money, not funny money on paper. See the point?

Those that hold a corporation though may not care, since the salary encompasses their own paycheque. What you're talking about is the corporation's net income, which would be cared about by the shareholder(s). If the shareholder also works for, operates and gets paid by the corporation (as is the case in most small corps), then it's up to them if they care if the corp makes a net profit that's higher or not. In terms of corporate taxes, lower net is always better.
 
To me, either you do the high end details for customers that expect the best and are more than happy to pay for it or you do the cars that customers care enough NOT to send it through the tunnel of swirls - but don't care to have their wheels removed and brake calipers polished. I think while we all want that high end gig, working at some millionairs' garage in AC, doing classic cars, reality is we do nice cars that average people own. That said, you have to figure costs and charge accordingly. A good friend of mine said he actually got more business not mention more money per job when he raised his prices. I figure most folks link price=value and will pay more (up to a point).



It still gets me how some guys will spend mega bucks on a new Mustang GT, mega bucks on customer parts, and still go to the "autospa" to get it cleaned. Really? Maybe we all need to spend a little time at car shows.
 
I have always observed a "inquire within" type of pattern with people who book or don't book a vehicle with me. If a person asks what a cost for a "cleanup"(considering all the info on treatments of mine that are out there) then chances are(and experimentally tested) that they are not looking for what I am doing. I will not even do a wash and wax for a new customer simply because in my area people expect a coat of wax to cure a myriad of issues and I simply bring vehicles back to a standard. That said, everyone who books with me understands what goes into their vehicle and its rejuvenation as well as my expectations of them to maintain it after. I think my expectations of them are really what makes it set in that I am dead serious about what I do with a person's vehicle.



Discounts not given. :)



Mike
 
Discounting could be good, say for a car club that you are apart of. Nothing major maybe 10%. I would never run anything in groupon or any other sales specials just to boost sales. Why work harder for less money.



Now if it was a high volume shop, I can see this working as tese are the type of costumers the want.
 
JuneBug said:
It still gets me how some guys will spend mega bucks on a new Mustang GT, mega bucks on customer parts, and still go to the "autospa" to get it cleaned. Really? Maybe we all need to spend a little time at car shows.

Hey hey hey, you saying my detail shop is bad ?!?!??!?!??!



(hahaha, j/k, I know you didn't mean it like that)
 
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