I switched from Zaino to Klasse. I now understand the candy wrapper shine that Zaino produces. The Klasse was a relatively simple system to apply. First I wiped the car down with PrepSol. Then I used the PC with a yellow pad for the SMR. Next I used the PC with a white pad to apply the AIO. Finally I applied SG with a MF pad by hand and buffed with a MF towel using the WOO method. The shine is deep and very slick. I waited 48 hours and applied the 2nd coat of SG. The shine is deep, but it just seems to have a haze to it. Is it because the car is black? The Zaino was so "clear." I've searched the forum and found a lot on hazing, but that seems to relate to the removal process. Mine removed easily. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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SMR, AIO then SG...on black=haze?
- Thread starter mariola
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Hmm, the first thing is to determine the actual nature of this "hazing".
Did it only show up after the second coat of SG?
I can think of three possibilities: There's a "SG haze" where the SG is the culprit, it's like it never fully dried..the problem is IN the SG. You can often tell by rubbing it with your finger and seeing if the hazing follows your motions. Then there's the "marred paint" haze, where the problem is UNDER the SG (you somehow scratched/swirled the paint). And finally, sometimes you can get some micromarring in the SG itself (it took the hit instead of your paint). If you're lucky, you got the first or last of the three, maybe because you put the SG on a bit thick or something like that. See what it looks like after the next time you wash the car.
Did it only show up after the second coat of SG?
I can think of three possibilities: There's a "SG haze" where the SG is the culprit, it's like it never fully dried..the problem is IN the SG. You can often tell by rubbing it with your finger and seeing if the hazing follows your motions. Then there's the "marred paint" haze, where the problem is UNDER the SG (you somehow scratched/swirled the paint). And finally, sometimes you can get some micromarring in the SG itself (it took the hit instead of your paint). If you're lucky, you got the first or last of the three, maybe because you put the SG on a bit thick or something like that. See what it looks like after the next time you wash the car.
I had this same problem with the third or fourth coat of SG about a month ago. The next day I went over the car with Sonus Acrylic spritz on an MF cloth. I then polished it out with a dry MF cloth. The beautiful shine came back. Now I routinely thin the SG with Sonus Acrylic spritz as I apply. This seems to have solved the problem for me.
mariola said:I switched from Zaino to Klasse. I now understand the candy wrapper shine that Zaino produces. The Klasse was a relatively simple system to apply. First I wiped the car down with PrepSol. Then I used the PC with a yellow pad for the SMR. Next I used the PC with a white pad to apply the AIO. Finally I applied SG with a MF pad by hand and buffed with a MF towel using the WOO method. The shine is deep and very slick. I waited 48 hours and applied the 2nd coat of SG. The shine is deep, but it just seems to have a haze to it. Is it because the car is black? The Zaino was so "clear." I've searched the forum and found a lot on hazing, but that seems to relate to the removal process. Mine removed easily. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
This haze sounds familiar to the one I usually get after applying AIO on it's own or followed up by SG. In my case the haze usually clears up on it's own after a day. I attribute it to the product curing. In your situation the product may not be fully cured. This all depends on various environmental factors. I'd give it week and then see if the haze is still there. Wash the car 1 week after the last coat of SG was applied and see if that helps out. It should.
Bill.
Frank F. said:I had this same problem with the third or fourth coat of SG about a month ago. The next day I went over the car with Sonus Acrylic spritz on an MF cloth. I then polished it out with a dry MF cloth. The beautiful shine came back. Now I routinely thin the SG with Sonus Acrylic spritz as I apply. This seems to have solved the problem for me.
What method did you use to apply the SG?
I assume WOO = Wipe On, Off? No wait time. WOWO = Wipe On, Wait, Off? (sorry, noob here).
I used WOWO on a black car, had the same problem. Using Sonus immediately did not help. After the car was parked outside overnight, I washed, dried, then used some Sonus to polish the haze out.
I think the problem was too much SG or not enough wait time.
I've had the same problem on my black Benz, but the odd thing is that it only appears under certain light conditions.
I've used Sonus, I've washed the car, and the appearance doesn't seem to change. With the sun very low in the sky (right at dawn or dusk), the paint appears to have a slight haze. BUT, when I look at the car in the midday sun, I don't see the haze. I know it sounds odd, but that's the way it is.
I'm willing to live with it, as it looks great 99% of the time. I wonder if topping it with a carnuba will alter the affect, but I don't want to give up the ability to hit it with another coat of SG when I want.
I've used Sonus, I've washed the car, and the appearance doesn't seem to change. With the sun very low in the sky (right at dawn or dusk), the paint appears to have a slight haze. BUT, when I look at the car in the midday sun, I don't see the haze. I know it sounds odd, but that's the way it is.
I'm willing to live with it, as it looks great 99% of the time. I wonder if topping it with a carnuba will alter the affect, but I don't want to give up the ability to hit it with another coat of SG when I want.