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beachy

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I'm currently in consultation with a lawyer regarding another detailer in my area 'reviewing' my business online as well as other detailers that he thinks he competes with. I was wonbdering what you guys think about whether or not I should notify this guy about what I am doing. I hope that he will cease and desist without my having to sue him. However, it appears likely that things will have to go that far.



What do you guys think, should I tell him I am going to sue him if he doesn't stop?
 
We'll need more specific details about what he has been doing.



Me? I just ignore the 'competition' and, keeping my head down, I just keep doing the right thing.



Jim
 
ZaneO said:
Could his name be Martin?
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LMAO- who else is that F'n stupid?



I would like to ignore this, but he has been very proactive about it through this past summer, and will continue. I feel that he has been damaging my business as well as others. Several people see these reviews each day, and I am not going to back down and let it slide. I work too hard for my money to allow some chump to slander my business like that.



go to local.yahoo.com and enter 'detailing' in San Antonio, and you can see what's going on.
 
beachy said:
I'm currently in consultation with a lawyer regarding another detailer in my area 'reviewing' my business online as well as other detailers that he thinks he competes with. I was wonbdering what you guys think about whether or not I should notify this guy about what I am doing. I hope that he will cease and desist without my having to sue him. However, it appears likely that things will have to go that far.



What do you guys think, should I tell him I am going to sue him if he doesn't stop?
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Slander is a very tough thing to prove and in order to win a lawsuit you also have to prove that what he's done has caused you monetary loss as well. Very tough road to go down and can get expensive with a lawyer. They're the ones that usually come out ahead in dealings like this. Sometimes a nice letter from an attorney will quiet punks like that up and usually doesn't cost much. If it's not hurting your business typically losers like that eventually get figured out and go away, but a letter might expedite the matter. Good luck in dealing with it though.
 
94BlkStang said:
Slander is a very tough thing to prove and in order to win a lawsuit you also have to prove that what he's done has caused you monetary loss as well. Very tough road to go down and can get expensive with a lawyer. They're the ones that usually come out ahead in dealings like this. Sometimes a nice letter from an attorney will quiet punks like that up and usually doesn't cost much. If it's not hurting your business typically losers like that eventually get figured out and go away, but a letter might expedite the matter. Good luck in dealing with it though.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think monetary loss is important for a slander case. Defamation suits are not always about money.
 
You're going to have a very hard time proving damages. It will open up every financial detail in your business. Sometimes with our types of businesses(cash), it might not be all that smart to start something you can't control. Good luck. Just hire yourself a hitman. It will be much cheaper in the long run.
 
beachy said:
LMAO- who else is that F'n stupid?



go to local.yahoo.com and enter 'detailing' in San Antonio, and you can see what's going on.
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I didn't see anything bad about your business. Just one good review.
 
A few years ago a guy in my area started a detailing business calling himself "superior shine".



I called him and asked him to stop. He agreed, then I told him how to go about registering a business name and all.



No lawyer.
 
i'm not a professional...but consider myself a professional customer. :)



i am always turned off by vendors, contractors, businesses that bad mouth their competition...simply because it is poor professionalism. in my line of work (computers), if a vendor i approach for service tries to get my business by bashing their competitors it works against them and i go elsewhere. i prefer to see the quality of their work and not hear the opinions.



bottom line: unless they are outright lying and calling you out to a great extent...just ignore it and let your quality of work speak for itself.



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Why don't you get more of your customers to rate you on Yahoo . If you read some of his reviews their are customer's that aren't so satisfied with his work , to quote one reviewer " Martin is no detailer! "



Keep doing the great work your doing , don't let them get to you .



Regards

Jerry
 
paradigm said:
i'm not a professional...but consider myself a professional customer. :)



i am always turned off by vendors, contractors, businesses that bad mouth their competition...simply because it is poor professionalism. in my line of work (computers), if a vendor i approach for service tries to get my business by bashing their competitors it works against them and i go elsewhere. i prefer to see the quality of their work and not hear the opinions.



bottom line: unless they are outright lying and calling you out to a great extent...just ignore it and let your quality of work speak for itself.



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I totally agree. Sell me on what you can do, not what the competition can't do is how I look at a business.
 
Superior Fine said:
A few years ago a guy in my area started a detailing business calling himself "superior shine".



I called him and asked him to stop. He agreed, then I told him how to go about registering a business name and all.



No lawyer.
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My brother had his business name trademarked, now he can legally go after anyone who uses it. Sometimes that is just what you have to do.
 
Rollman said:
Why don't you get more of your customers to rate you on Yahoo . If you read some of his reviews their are customer's that aren't so satisfied with his work , to quote one reviewer " Martin is no detailer! "



Keep doing the great work your doing , don't let them get to you .



Regards

Jerry
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Link? Sounds interesting...
 
here is my advice:

1) Call the guy and talk it out first (Free) - if that dosnt work:

2) talk to a lawyer to see how much a cease and decist letter will cost you they are pretty effective usually and you wont have to plunk down a retainer fee and all that is involved. ($100-$200 Natl average for a lawyer is 100 an hour; a letter should take 1-1.5 hours)

3) If that dosnt work try to find an attorney who will take the case on a contingent basis (good luck they really only do these types on personal injury)





Id defiantly suggest calling the guy first. Attorneys are VERY expensive
 
Glowin97x said:
here is my advice:

1) Call the guy and talk it out first (Free). . .



Id defiantly suggest calling the guy first. Attorneys are VERY expensive
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I wouldn't suggest doing anything out of writing. Every bit of contact with this person needs to be documented, certified mail with receipt etc. M2C.



Best of luck.
 
I have good connections with lawyers. One is my professor, who has agreed to consult with me free of charge before and after class. The other is my cousin in Dallas, who is a partner at his law firm.



I don't bad-mouth any businesses, except that I may tell my customers that probably nobody else would spend as much time as I do for the money. Got a $50 tip yesterday!!



None of my customers know what is going on. I plan to do a mailing to each of them with an incentive to review my business on Yahoo. As far as I know, I have 110% satisfaction with all of my clients. What is being done by Martin is sabotaging my advertising efforts.



I don't want to, but I'm pretty sure this will end in court. At least the ******* will know I'm not just going to roll over and let him take me from behind!
 
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