Seen this? Zaino and Dust Issue

[AlphaSpread]

Dust collection is the result of many factors. Static charge is one of them, but others include slickness, smoothness, shape and orientation of body panels, and how "oily" a product is.

Interesting, since Zaino contains no oils and is extremely slick, yet seems to attract more dust than pretty much every other product I've tried, (except Blitz wax). Klasse, on the other hand does contain oils and isn't very slick at all, yet seems to excel at repelling dust. My impression is that P21S is one of the best at repelling dust.



I think static is the main culprit when it comes to Zaino's dust attraction, especially when buffed with a MF towel as I can literally feel the static on the hairs of my arm when removing it. However, I don't get this when buffing Zaino with cotton towels. Perhaps there IS something to following manufacturer's directions when using their product.



As for the half Zaino/half Malms hood, regardless of how "bogus" or unscientific the test was, I really don't think there is any to talk your way around or dodge what happened. Simple fact is the Z side attracted a lot more dust. To say that static will not miraculously stop at the midpoint of the hood would imply that any difference in dust attraction between the two products would be diluted, not magnified. Basically what you're saying is the static charges from the Z application made malms attract more dust than it normally would and would be even more dust-free had Z not been applied next to it. Zaino polishes are great products with unmatched durability and an eye-popping shine, but some of the claims made by Sal and SOME of its users just aren't true (dust repulsion & Z-5's swirl-filling).

 

[BradE]

Klasse, on the other hand does contain oils and isn't very slick at all, yet seems to excel at repelling dust.

To my knowledge Klasse does NOT contain any oils, it's a "pure" polymer.

 

[imported_drcpgh]

To my knowledge Klasse does NOT contain any oils, it's a "pure" polymer.

IMO Klasse blows Zaino into the weeds. Klasse ROCKS!!

 

[imported_memnuts]

Probably time to close this thread. I has no redeeming value.:nono

 

[rorsino]

Nick , I have the same driveway situation. With a black car, dust is an issue. I used Zaino for 2 years, before switching to Klasse & Sov/P21. The dust attraction, even on low humidity days is much reduced with that combo over the Zaino. I know I'll get flamed for this but I think it looks better too. :scared

 

[Jngrbrdman]

There is a 'warn' button there by the 'edit' and 'quote' buttons so you can report threads like this. If we get people reporting threads then they get shut down pretty fast. (hint) (hint)

 

[Lemonxxs]

Remember the rules and keep this friendly



LEts get the discussion back on track....



DOES anyone have info on this guys test other than saying he applied Z to the drivers side and MALMs to the passenger side?



Not knocking anything but, it seems to me the amount of difference leads me to believe, he QD the MALMs side half way through the trip......and let the other side go.....thus creating dusty hood with distinct differences...



Someone try this with any other 2 products .....



Say wash only on one side and MEguiars gold wax on other side.....



Heck pull in garage and start sanding wood with some fine grit paper, dump the vacuum around and blow it around too.....then look at hood and take pic......



Sorry I do not beleive what is stated in pics no matter what products are stated....NEED more info please

 

[Lurkster]

I used to find that Zaino did attract some dust, but I have found that using Z6 in between layers of Zaino and using Z7 wash really cut got rid of the problem...anybody else find this?

 

[WS6Fury]

I will say it myself, Zaino does in fact attract dust!!! And it does create static when wiping the wax off with 100% cotton towels. I've been zapped many times wiping off the wax from my 02 WS6, which is almost 100% composite, less the frame, heh, but that might of been an option



The unfortunate part is zaino is advertised to be anti-static and dust repelling when it in fact does the total opposite!

 

[tkr128]

Has anybody noticed an increased bug attraction to Zaino? My car seems to be attacked by bugs that are trying to die. I park my car and a few hours later, I come out to a car with dead bugs all over the car (not completely covering the car, but you know what I mean). Maybe it's because it smells so good? Anyone? :nixweiss

 

[WS6Fury]

Has anybody noticed an increased bug attraction to Zaino? My car seems to be attacked by bugs that are trying to die. I park my car and a few hours later, I come out to a car with dead bugs all over the car (not completely covering the car, but you know what I mean). Maybe it's because it smells so good? Anyone? :nixweiss

rofl, maybe they all got zapped by the static electricity!

 

[llbts1]

Yes bugs like it, so do horses. To the tune of $1550.00. And Im still not finished. Horses thought they could eat the paint. They had metal harness aroud their neck(4 of them) and they proceeded to scratch the H*LL out of my truck. I wish I could get Zaino without any fragrance. But I might give Clear Coat a shot. Scottwax sure has done fine work with it. Larry

 

[WS6Fury]

Bogus Comparison.....



You can't mix products on a panel to test for dust attraction. The static charges are not going to miraculously stop at the border of one product in the middle of a panel. One would have to use a different product on 2 identical cars and compare for a good comparison......

I don't believe that to be true, paint is not a conductor of electricity like you may think regular metal is. If anything, it may conduct a tiny tiny bit because of the metals used in paints, especially metallic paints. So if you statically charge one side of your hood, your not going to statically charge the other side, there really is no chance for the electrical charge to spread to the other side. So in this case, one side of the hood was done with zaino, the other with another wax, I forgot what it was. Your left side and right side of the hood would be a good comparison point, the center of the hood may not be from the static charge slightly jumping over/spreading.

 

[ahunt01]

I agree

 

[Nick T.]

I don't believe that to be true, paint is not a conductor of electricity like you may think regular metal is.

IMO the paint does not need to be a conductor for the static charge to spread over the entire surface. Have you ever rubbed a balloon on a wool carpet? The whole balloon becomes charged, not just the spot that was rubbed - and rubber is not a very good conductor of electricity.



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[ashsarna]

I don't believe that to be true, paint is not a conductor of electricity like you may think regular metal is. If anything, it may conduct a tiny tiny bit because of the metals used in paints, especially metallic paints. So if you statically charge one side of your hood, your not going to statically charge the other side, there really is no chance for the electrical charge to spread to the other side. So in this case, one side of the hood was done with zaino, the other with another wax, I forgot what it was. Your left side and right side of the hood would be a good comparison point, the center of the hood may not be from the static charge slightly jumping over/spreading.

I too agree.



I have used zaino and it is a very good product, but, it did attract quite a bit of dust. Everyone will have a favorite for different reasons, and no one product is the "ultimate". I personally now use klasse; I feel it attracts less dust (among other reasons not valid here).



I believe that even if the test was not a 100% accurate in ideal conditions ect, ect. it still shows to whatever extent the dust attraction to zaino. Taking that for what it is worth in a constructive manner is all anyone can ask.

 

[jasonatv22]

I'll agree it isn't the best test due to static features. Detail King nailed it and no one listened.



Let's think about the nature of a charge shall we? Aah.



Now, if you take an object and treat it with one type of semiconductive material and treat the other side with some other semiconductive material and then put them in a situation where they can make a charge, depending on the properties of the two coating materials you may set up a highly charged area and an area with very little charge.



I don't think the dude QDed the car's carnuba side. I have noticed different traits with S100 and random crap I compare it to. S100 seems to let dirt go, rather than letting it stay.



Those who feel that paint can't conduct electricity have never shocked themselves on their car after driving, eh?



But, that said about the polarization of the panel...yeah, didn't we already know that Zaino was a dust magnet?

 

[imported_drcpgh]

I like Klasse AIO and Glaze combo much much better than Zaino. The Klasse protection is stronger, lasts longer and does not collect all of the dirt and dust that the Zaino does. Also, to my eye the Klasse finish is more deep and liquid.

 

[cpaddock]

That is the main reason I switched to carnubas. It always urked me how I would spend 2-3 hours at a local car wash only to have my car have a nice even coat of dust by the next day or two.

 

[imported_Dude]

I honestly don't understand how anyone can argue with these pictures. The proof is literally right before your eyes! The Zaino side collected a great deal of dust, while the carnuba side didn't. Case closed.



I use Zaino, and tried switching back to carnuba, only to return to Zaino again. I think it's the best product on the market right now, at least of those I have tried. But it defies logic to say that it doesn't have its shortcomings. Dust is one of them; long drying times are another. EVERY product has its shortcomings. It's okay to admit it.