Sealant test over a Glaze base
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Alfisti said:
No it does not mean that I am not going to wash it. In this particular instance I must wash it because it is so dusty from my recent trip. I update on Tuesday and post on Wednesday for the update of this test. As soon as the sun is up and the weather is nice enough I will wash the vehicle with P21S. I usually use S&W to clean the truck but it is just to nasty for me to do a S&W wipedown.
cwcad
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Another week has gone by and the hood still looks good. Slickness has diminished appreciably but throughout the test area equally. The hood cleaned up well from the last hand wash. I managed to create problems by not using proper wash techniques last week and left a lot of small water spots through out the test area. I managed to clean the water spots off with a S&W wipedown a few days later. I still have not figured out why it worked after a few days in the sun but did not work on the day of the wash. Oh well...guess stranger things have happened, eh?
Since nothing has changed as far as looks are concerned and it has not rained since my last update all I can do at this time is offer my opinion on what is happening.
It was brought up in another thread that the glaze is the only constant in this test. I guess the other constant is the paint in the test area as well. Having considered this constant it makes me wonder if the glaze is effecting the bonding of the sealants in the test. Here are the reasons that I think this.
The beading characteristics are uniform throughout the test area. In prior testing I could always tell beading differences by product(i.e., sealants hold tighter beading versus carnuabas longer).
Dust accumulations seems to be the same throughout the test area. In previous observations it was noted that one test section appeared to have more dust than the other test areas.
Visual observations showed previously had at least one test area different in the look of the paint(i.e. NXT2.0 was visually darker than the rest of the test area. Next was PS albeit slight)
Texture of the paint also gave an indication of a different product. None of them did a bad job there simply was a difference in feel. I do not feel this difference now. All feel the same.
For these reasons I submit that the glaze applied has effected the bonding of the sealants in the test. I feel that I have protection on the paint but I do not feel that the sealants involved in the test are giving me their characteristics but rather have been diminished to the point that the only thing that is left is the one constant in the test. The glaze itself.
I will know more later on in the week since the weather forecast is that rain will come to central Texas.
I will update with pictures as it happens.
I solicit any comments on my musings.
Since nothing has changed as far as looks are concerned and it has not rained since my last update all I can do at this time is offer my opinion on what is happening.
It was brought up in another thread that the glaze is the only constant in this test. I guess the other constant is the paint in the test area as well. Having considered this constant it makes me wonder if the glaze is effecting the bonding of the sealants in the test. Here are the reasons that I think this.
The beading characteristics are uniform throughout the test area. In prior testing I could always tell beading differences by product(i.e., sealants hold tighter beading versus carnuabas longer).
Dust accumulations seems to be the same throughout the test area. In previous observations it was noted that one test section appeared to have more dust than the other test areas.
Visual observations showed previously had at least one test area different in the look of the paint(i.e. NXT2.0 was visually darker than the rest of the test area. Next was PS albeit slight)
Texture of the paint also gave an indication of a different product. None of them did a bad job there simply was a difference in feel. I do not feel this difference now. All feel the same.
For these reasons I submit that the glaze applied has effected the bonding of the sealants in the test. I feel that I have protection on the paint but I do not feel that the sealants involved in the test are giving me their characteristics but rather have been diminished to the point that the only thing that is left is the one constant in the test. The glaze itself.
I will know more later on in the week since the weather forecast is that rain will come to central Texas.
I will update with pictures as it happens.
I solicit any comments on my musings.
I think the S&W wipedown would've added its own silicones which may 'homogenize' the result.
Personally, I can't see how something under a LSP will make a difference to beading and feel when it didn't initially.
I'd look to the surface. S&W, car wash or minerals in the water are more likely to my way of thinking. :nixweiss
Personally, I can't see how something under a LSP will make a difference to beading and feel when it didn't initially.
I'd look to the surface. S&W, car wash or minerals in the water are more likely to my way of thinking. :nixweiss
cwcad
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Alfisti said:
I cannot say you are wrong but in my defense I have made other personal tests using at least two of the products involved in this test and their characteristics held true throughout the test using S&W. I believe that S&W does not leave much if anything on the paint surface which lasts very long. Yet it is something to be considered.
wannafbody
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I'd wash it a couple times with regular car wash and see how everything holds up.
cwcad
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My test is finally coming to a close. The beading is changing each week as you can see from my first posts. I believe that it is time for something different. I never imagined how difficult it was to not do something that would effect the testing. What ever I did during the course of the test each product was treated the same. Nothing was done to add to the products to increase shine or durability.
It appears from the pictures below that that the beading is lacking of uniformity. Although the entire hood seems to be uniform in the beading. I am comparing the beads now to the previous pictures of this thread. Look for yourself
I have to say that I am satisfied with DWG it passed the CharlesW test as far as I am concerned. What is the Charles W test? It is 4 to 6 weeks of good durabilty and shine and I cannot wait to put more product on the replenish what I believe is still doing a relatively good job.
Slickness was not a major factor in this test. The slickness dropped a little each day. I am not sure if the dust issues were the mitigating factor in this issue but I suspect it may be since I had to put the truck through some hard environmental elements because of the trips that I had to make through central Texas during the test period. Dust from the drought brought excessive wear on the test area. I had one day where it rained dust puddles on my test area. That is why I had to use a car shampoo to clean the test area rather than using S&W my usual cleaning practice.
Shine remained consistent after the first week. Eventually the hood looked the same through out the test area as compared to the initial look of the applied sealants. There definitely was a different look between the sealants as was shown in earlier posts. The difference did not last long though. As the test progressed the look became generic in shine and beading characteristics.
Here are my conclusions to my test.
DWG is a fine glaze that offers good shine and adequate protection for a moderate amount of time.
Zaino was effected by DWG. As noted by the change of the beading, slickness drop, and uniform shine on the test area.
Slickness was also noted on NXT 2.0 plus the darkening of the paint and both were soon lost after a week or two as I noted with the generic look of the test area.
Liquid Souveran probably worked the best with DWG but I suspect my opinion is skewed because of my penchant for the look of LS.
All in all it was a fun test for me and I look forward to doing similar testing with other products in the future.
It appears from the pictures below that that the beading is lacking of uniformity. Although the entire hood seems to be uniform in the beading. I am comparing the beads now to the previous pictures of this thread. Look for yourself
I have to say that I am satisfied with DWG it passed the CharlesW test as far as I am concerned. What is the Charles W test? It is 4 to 6 weeks of good durabilty and shine and I cannot wait to put more product on the replenish what I believe is still doing a relatively good job.
Slickness was not a major factor in this test. The slickness dropped a little each day. I am not sure if the dust issues were the mitigating factor in this issue but I suspect it may be since I had to put the truck through some hard environmental elements because of the trips that I had to make through central Texas during the test period. Dust from the drought brought excessive wear on the test area. I had one day where it rained dust puddles on my test area. That is why I had to use a car shampoo to clean the test area rather than using S&W my usual cleaning practice.
Shine remained consistent after the first week. Eventually the hood looked the same through out the test area as compared to the initial look of the applied sealants. There definitely was a different look between the sealants as was shown in earlier posts. The difference did not last long though. As the test progressed the look became generic in shine and beading characteristics.
Here are my conclusions to my test.
DWG is a fine glaze that offers good shine and adequate protection for a moderate amount of time.
Zaino was effected by DWG. As noted by the change of the beading, slickness drop, and uniform shine on the test area.
Slickness was also noted on NXT 2.0 plus the darkening of the paint and both were soon lost after a week or two as I noted with the generic look of the test area.
Liquid Souveran probably worked the best with DWG but I suspect my opinion is skewed because of my penchant for the look of LS.
All in all it was a fun test for me and I look forward to doing similar testing with other products in the future.
citizen arcane
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:thx for the test and results!
orionredwing
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What a fun thread to read. Thanks for the well written comparison. :2thumbs:
cwcad
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Macruz19 said:
Well I have three choices of products to do next. UPP(new version), Ultima, and Zaino up against each other. All with their respective QD's. At least that Is what I am thinking for thenext test.
This week end I am going over the truck with Poorboy's Black Hole Glaze and their newest version of QD+ just to familiarize myself with these new products that were just introduced.
wytstang
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cwcad this was a great test and I thank you for taking the time to do it and sharing you results.
cwcad
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wytstang said:
It was a fun test for me and I thank you for your comments.
cwcad
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I sold my truck and have a red vehicle now. Somehow, with red as a color choice on my vehicle, the tests do not seem so important. So I never actually did a fair test of the new products mentioned.