sealant for black non clearcoated paint?

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AndyC

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OK, I've decided to have a break from buying more detailing supplies for a while (like I'm going to keep that resolution!!!!) so Ican concentrate on my toy. 16 year old with non clearcoated non-metallic black paint.



I'd like people's input on the sealant - not "the best" as that's likely to start a raging debate - rather "the nicest" - what works for you & why?



Car is a real garage queen (doesn't go out if it's raining etc.) so I want to achieve deep, wet, glossy paint with durability being a secondary issue.



I've already clayed and started on the bonnet and I now have #82 SFP & Menzerna's IP/FP combo so I'm there on the polish front (#9 & DACP et al also in the cupboard).



I plan on using P21S as a wax but guess I ought to seal in between the polish/wax stage? If ultimate durability's not an issue, can I get away with going straight from polish to the P21S?



I had to take the car out last weekend so hit it with a quick coat of NXT wax for protection - nice result but not "the ultimate" IMO.



Thanks.
 
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~One mans opinion / observation~



Zanio Bros ‘Z’ system (Z-7 Wash Concentrate, Z-2 Polish, ZFX Cure Accelerator, Z-6 Gloss Enhancer Spray)



Why- on darker coloured cars, the protection of a sealant with the look of a Carnauba wax





~ Hope this helps ~



Experience unshared; is knowledge wasted…/

justadumbarchitect * so i question everything*
 
AndyC said:
Car is a real garage queen (doesn't go out if it's raining etc.) so I want to achieve deep, wet, glossy paint with durability being a secondary issue.



I plan on using P21S as a wax but guess I ought to seal in between the polish/wax stage? If ultimate durability's not an issue, can I get away with going straight from polish to the P21S?
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It sounds like your polish and prep routine will yield a very good surface to achieve the results you want but since durability is not a high priority, why the sealant? Personally I would experiment with various carnauba based waxes before going any sealant route. I guess I should qualify that comment a little….You indicated deep, wet and gloss as the characteristics that are important to you, but unfortunately how I define these terms may be different than how you do. For example I think that Zaino has a very reflective and bright shine type of look with a very slick surface. I would not define the Zaino “lookâ€� as deep or wet, but highly reflective maybe glossy (which is fine an I use it on my daily drivers all the time because I like the look and the durability). However you may look at that same surface and think it looks deep and wet. So my perspective on the “lookâ€� of a product is bias towards my definition.



The P21S is good wax and I have used it on my wife’s black (non-metallic) car numerous times. I does give a very “deep� and “wet� look, but I don’t really call it glossy. But once again that is my opinion.



Depending on what NXT was lacking for you I am not sure that a sealant like Zaino will do it for you either. I my opinion and limited use of NXT I thought it had a more similar look to Zaino. Not as reflective as Zaino in my opinion, but maybe a little “deeper� and “wetter� looking than Zaino. “Softer� is how I would describe it. Of course these are just my observation from my limited use of it and to be honest the surface prep I did for the car was somewhat limited. In my opinion Zaino is more glossy. I guess I equated the look of NXT to the Klasse twins (which is the other sealant people will recommend). I have never been successful with using the Klasse twins on black, it always looks "streaky" and I just gave up. Others have had very good success.



I am sure other will chime in with recommendations. Maybe a topper is your solution, but I can’t give you any experience with regard to them because am not a big topper fan and rarely do it.



The last suggestion is to do a search for AMP99's black BMW with Poorboys EX and something elese I think. Of the pictures I have seen on this forum is may be the best looking black non-metallic car I have seen for depth, wetness, and gloss.
 
If it's a garage queen, just go for the wax -- P21S or Meguiar's #16. I used to use #16 exclusively on my non-cleared black vehicles and they always looked great.



Tom (an old guy who has had lots of black toys)
 
TOGWT said:


Zanio Bros ‘Z’ system (Z-7 Wash Concentrate, Z-2 Polish, ZFX Cure Accelerator, Z-6 Gloss Enhancer Spray)

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Although Z2 is perfectly fine for single stage paint (I've used it on mine before), Zaino Z3 is specially formulated for non-clearcoated cars. I'm almost certain that there are no cosmetic differences between the two.



-Raymond
 
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