Scary advices... The Horror

jerry@robs

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When I take my car to the "car wash" they use rags that smudge my windows both inside/outside. I have tried pure strength vinegar, pure strength ammonia, and this DOES NOT work completely. That next day's morning rising sund riving into work really tells me the areas that have been missed. I can not stand smudgy windows.



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!



- craigda




Try waxing your window on the outside after you have cleaned them. Clean the inside of your windows with amonia and water. 50/50 half of each in a bottle.



So I see a few new polishes/wax's that say that they have teflon in them and I won't need to wax my truck again for 5 yeaers. Is this stuff for real? If so, which is the best one?



The teflon in a paint sealant has one purpose, that is to make the part of the sealant that adheres to the clearcoat easier to remove. The protection comes from the synthetic matter in the sealant. I would not suggest using a pure carnuba for long term protection, for the simple fact that carnuba comes from a tree in Brazil which needs UV to survive. Therfore it will not protect against the harsh UV rays your vehicle is exposed to every day.



What is the best way, and best wax to use on a black car that is in great shape?



I'm actually looking for tips too but by trial and error...emphasis on the error, I have found some workable methods. As you well know, you can't just wash the vehicle and not wax it, right? I have gone to some extremes. First, use "clear rinse" soap. Don't use the stuff with some (any) kind of wax already in it. You're going to wax it anyway and that stuff streaks when you dry the car/truck. Pat dry or better yet, fire up the leaf blower and blow it dry. Yes, you read right. Surely you've heard of a wash and blow dry!



Use a sponge to wash and wax but...never use the same one to wash the hood and upper sides as you do the low rocker panels. The serious dirt and grime is kicked up from the road here. I only keep a sponge for 2-3 wash/waxes.



I have found the Turtle Wax Colored (Black of Course) MIXED WITH MAGUIRES (put in same bottle and shake) does two things. One, it keeps the white powder from forming on every nook and cranie and two, the Turtle Wax is a mild polish and not a wax so you get the deep cleaning, minor scratch and swirl removing action from the polish and the paint and element protection from the wax. Let dry completely and wipe with a nice cotton shirt you got for Xmas but never wear. Check your closet, you have plenty of them. Don't toss or donate them, OK, donate some but keep a few for the black car.




(Use terry cloth towels that have never been washed in soap, the soap will leave a residue. I put my towels in the washer in clear water thru a wash cycle and let them spin dry only. You can use a little softener in the wash to keep the towels soft.



:argue :shocked :scared



My god, I better check my waxes if they're still healthy and alive...
 
theveed said:
Try waxing your window on the outside after you have cleaned them. Clean the inside of your windows with amonia and water. 50/50 half of each in a bottle.



She claims to be a detailer?!?:scared
 
Just checked my 3M Show Car Wax paste jug... I think it's dead... it aint moving even if I poke it with my finger... Shud've left it out in the sun so it can live... :( :(



Was planning to wax my windshield tonight... :( :(



:nixweiss
 
Soap will leave a residue in your towels, but fabric softener won't??



I like the mixing Turtle Wax with Meguiar's. I think we can assume he meant Meguiar's Cleaner/Wax, given that he uses the colored Turtle Wax polishes... Sometimes to save time I just mix Swirl Free Polish, BF GEP, BF Protectant, and a little chunk of Souveran in together. This way I get a 4-stage detail job without all the hassle. :xyxthumbs
 
theveed said:
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When I take my car to the "car wash" they use rags that smudge my windows both inside/outside. I have tried pure strength vinegar, pure strength ammonia, and this DOES NOT work completely. That next day's morning rising sund riving into work really tells me the areas that have been missed. I can not stand smudgy windows.



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!



- craigda




Try waxing your window on the outside after you have cleaned them. Clean the inside of your windows with amonia and water. 50/50 half of each in a bottle.



So I see a few new polishes/wax's that say that they have teflon in them and I won't need to wax my truck again for 5 yeaers. Is this stuff for real? If so, which is the best one?



The teflon in a paint sealant has one purpose, that is to make the part of the sealant that adheres to the clearcoat easier to remove. The protection comes from the synthetic matter in the sealant. I would not suggest using a pure carnuba for long term protection, for the simple fact that carnuba comes from a tree in Brazil which needs UV to survive. Therfore it will not protect against the harsh UV rays your vehicle is exposed to every day.



What is the best way, and best wax to use on a black car that is in great shape?



I'm actually looking for tips too but by trial and error...emphasis on the error, I have found some workable methods. As you well know, you can't just wash the vehicle and not wax it, right? I have gone to some extremes. First, use "clear rinse" soap. Don't use the stuff with some (any) kind of wax already in it. You're going to wax it anyway and that stuff streaks when you dry the car/truck. Pat dry or better yet, fire up the leaf blower and blow it dry. Yes, you read right. Surely you've heard of a wash and blow dry!



Use a sponge to wash and wax but...never use the same one to wash the hood and upper sides as you do the low rocker panels. The serious dirt and grime is kicked up from the road here. I only keep a sponge for 2-3 wash/waxes.



I have found the Turtle Wax Colored (Black of Course) MIXED WITH MAGUIRES (put in same bottle and shake) does two things. One, it keeps the white powder from forming on every nook and cranie and two, the Turtle Wax is a mild polish and not a wax so you get the deep cleaning, minor scratch and swirl removing action from the polish and the paint and element protection from the wax. Let dry completely and wipe with a nice cotton shirt you got for Xmas but never wear. Check your closet, you have plenty of them. Don't toss or donate them, OK, donate some but keep a few for the black car.




(Use terry cloth towels that have never been washed in soap, the soap will leave a residue. I put my towels in the washer in clear water thru a wash cycle and let them spin dry only. You can use a little softener in the wash to keep the towels soft.



:argue :shocked :scared



My god, I better check my waxes if they're still healthy and alive...



Thanks a lot buddy! Now thanks to you I have wasted 5 minutes of my day laughing so hard that my ribs hurt. Now I don't know if I'll be able to do any more work today.



But seriously, that is so typical of the moronic stuff I see and hear all day from other shops and customers.



Here are a couple of gems from a local detail shop's web site:



- "Deluxe Exterior Wash and Paint Sealant ($100.00-150.00)

Deluxe Exterior Wash (noted above) and an application of one of the industries best Paint Sealants, which can lasts up to 18 months, when properly maintained. This paint sealant contains Teflon, which helps protect your vehicle's finish from the elements. (Acid Rain, Bird Droppings, Industrial Fallout etc.)

*A paint sealant is a name given to a wax that is tried and tested to last longer than normal. (Usually a regular wax lasts between 6-12 months, once again if properly maintained)"



- "Deluxe Exterior Wash, Vacuum and Dry Detail ($40.00-60.00)

Same as the first two packages with an added dry detail. The dash is cleaned using a special technique that is solely found at and developed by XXXXXX CAR CARE inc. removing dust from the vinyl's cracks and crevasses. This includes the dash, console and all doors" - the special technique? Dressing all the vinyl with a solvent based TIRE DRESSING.



Really professional.
 
ShineShop said:
...............that is so typical of the moronic stuff I see and hear all day from other shops and customers.
I was thinking about what you wrote in another thread about people who claim to be professionals when I read this page.



This is a perfect example of what you described!
 
Just checked my 3M Show Car Wax paste jug... I think it's dead... it aint moving even if I poke it with my finger... Shud've left it out in the sun so it can live...



:D :D :D



I don't think I have ever laughed as hard reading a post on this forum. Thanks, you just made my day.
 
hehe... I don't mind reading these things if it came from casual car owners that just wants to help, but if it comes from so called "detailers" and "pros" that's a bit scary...



Update... I placed my 3M Wax in the cryo lastnight hoping that someday they'll find a way to make it survive once a gain...
 
theveed said:
Just checked my 3M Show Car Wax paste jug... I think it's dead... it aint moving even if I poke it with my finger... Shud've left it out in the sun so it can live... :( :(
LMAO David!!! :D



Thanks for the laughs! :xyxthumbs



PS: If your Show Car Wax moves the next time you poke it/put food near it/use cattle prod on it, run away and consult local priest. ;)
 
man thats scary.



I have heard worse being told to customers by an Autobarn (Australian aftermarket car accesories chain) employee. He need serious repromanding.
 
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