Sal Zaino on Carnauba wax
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imported_DetailDan
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Scottwax said:
No ****, but if you're going to knock another product then make it at least somewhat believable.
Scottwax said:
Ive never seen, thought, or said they leave a hazy finish behind.
D&D Auto Detail said:
Read your quote I pulled:
No, thats not what the thread is about. Im interested about what others think about what Sal said about Carnauba. it leaves the finish hazy, isnt optically perfect like Zaino, etc interested in the finish the two leave behind, not which one lasts longer.
I was responding to what Sal said about carnaubas. You asked for opinions, I believe you now have mine.
imported_DetailDan
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Alfisti said:I must have missed something...where is he knocking another product?
And what isn't believable, again?
Carnauba, and some of the things he said about it.
Scottwax said:
Read your quote I pulled:
No, thats not what the thread is about. Im interested about what others think about what Sal said about Carnauba. it leaves the finish hazy, isnt optically perfect like Zaino, etc interested in the finish the two leave behind, not which one lasts longer.
I was responding to what Sal said about carnaubas. You asked for opinions, I believe you now have mine.
Right, thats what Sal said, not me. You make it sound like I said that. I asked for opinions because I dont understand how Sal is coming up with some of the stuff he said.
imported_never gone
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Mikeyc said:
Personally I say no way to that. What do many use when they want to strip all the wax off their cars? Dawn dish soap. Why does it work? because of the high alkali content. It's my understand bird poop can also have a high acidic/alkali content which therefor would eat through a carnauba based wax pretty quickly.
fergnation
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Carnuaba is the extremely hot girlfriend that all of your friends are jealous about. She is the hot blonde at the pool with the killer body in a bikini. She is also the girlfriend that every guy looks at when you walk into a room. The drawback is that she might not be the brightest girlfriend you have ever had and often wonders why you spend so much time cleaning your car.
Sealant is the girlfriend that is just alright looking. She is going to be really cool to hang out with and she is usually very fun to be with. Also, not every guy in the room is going to be starring at her, so there is a sense of security that she is not going to be running out the back door with another guy.
Personally, I am going with the hot blonde with big **** every time.
But that is just my sexist view on the subject and nothing more.
Sealant is the girlfriend that is just alright looking. She is going to be really cool to hang out with and she is usually very fun to be with. Also, not every guy in the room is going to be starring at her, so there is a sense of security that she is not going to be running out the back door with another guy.
Personally, I am going with the hot blonde with big **** every time.
But that is just my sexist view on the subject and nothing more.
tom p.
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Mikeyc said:
+1.
It's difficult for him to offer a truly objective comparison.
Run what you want !
Deanski
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Oh come on now guys! This is a dead horse beating a dead horse... Enough..:hairpull
Just use what you like. You like a sealant fine... You like a wax fine.. Who the hell gives a rats a$$... :wall
Move on to something a bit more current!:idea
Deanski
Just use what you like. You like a sealant fine... You like a wax fine.. Who the hell gives a rats a$$... :wall
Move on to something a bit more current!:idea
Deanski
imported_memnuts
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Deanski said:
:werd:
If one isn't taking advantage of both types of products, if nothing more than for variety in appearance once in a while, you are probably missing out on a lot of the fun of this hobby. :wavey
a.k.a. Patrick
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See I have to agree with what Sal has said on this...He states his product is more true in appearance.......Is there any difference? I for one have never been able to distinguish any difference myself....
imported_DieselMDX
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mdx zaino
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nuff said how I feel
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David Fermani
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DieselMDX said:mdx zaino
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nuff said how I feel
It's obvious you're brand loyal to your avatar!
Accumulator
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wannafbody said:
Beats me, but those waxes aren't described as "sealants". The other waxes I've had good results with, especially the Malm's, are probably more along the lines of a "regular carnauba". The #16 sure smells like paraffin and is basically unchanged since the 50's, so I'd consider it pretty far from a "synthetic". But again, I'm no chemist and I'll agree I'm sorta lumping the "waxes" I referred to together in the "carnauba" category :nixweiss
never gone said:
Noting that *I've never used Zaino*, I do use other sealants and find that they definitely *DO NOT* protect as well against bird droppings/bugs when it comes to resistance to etching. It's not a subtle difference, it's the difference between just washing/claying the vehicle and having to aggressively polish out etching with abrasives. I've left both bird bombs and bug guts on waxed vehicles for extended periods (no, I'm not recommending that!) with no problems, but the stuff that gets on my sealed vehicles etches them if I don't get it off within a day or two.
Also, I don't find Dawn to be any more effective at stripping a healthy coat of wax than it is at stripping sealants. Washing #16 (let alone Collinite) with Dawn doesn't do much of any stripping, at least not at the strength I've used, even when *trying* to strip the wax.
Deanski said:
Eh, I didn't think this was some nasty, contentious thread, just a discussion about one vendor's statements regarding products different from his. I use and like both sealants and waxes, but I think they both have their pros/cons and some of us like discussing those attributes.
Maybe people who haven't compared the two will find something of value; perhaps they never considered that some "old-fashioned wax" could provide great protection against bird bombs, for instance.
A.K.A. Patrick said:
Some of the *very* few times I've ever said "hey, is that [a specific product] on your car?" I had correctly IDed Zaino :think: I sure couldn't say "is that P21S?" or anything like that, so maybe in some cases it *is* a strikingly different looking LSP :nixweiss
Bigpoppa3346
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blkZ28Conv said:
Well said. :up
I will never use just a single LSP on any car, mixing things up a bit keeps it interesting.
And Accumulator is right, Zaino is a very distinct looking LSP. While the look is quite pleasing (to my eye), IMO it *does not* look like a carnauba. That's why there will always be a place for sealants and waxes in my arsenal. :2thumbs:
imported_DetailDan
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Thank you Accumulator. You guys arent understanding why I made this thread. It wasnt to argue about which one is better, last longer, or you should only use one or the other. Its about what Sal said about the finish Carnauba leaves behind. How does it differ from Zaino? Sal says Zaino is optically perfect and how Carnauba is hazy and greasy. So does this have any truth to it at all? Will Carnauba actually make the paint appear a different color like he says? Thats what Im wondering. Personally, I havent noticed those things with Carnauba. I see a deeper wetter finish with Carnauba, and more of a mirror like shine with Zaino. I havent used Zaino, but Ive seen it on several cars in person.
Obviously anyone who details knows theres a need for sealants and waxes, so stop bringing that up because thats not the point of the thread.
Obviously anyone who details knows theres a need for sealants and waxes, so stop bringing that up because thats not the point of the thread.
Todd@RUPES
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FWIW, nuba isn't opitically clear, and its not necessarily a bad thing (sorry for the spelling). This distoration is what lends to the illusion of depth, and it is all based on light refraction vs. light reflection.