Rupes Washer Mod...yes/no

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This same thing happened to mine and I was not satisfied with the washer "solution." After ordering a new backing plate I took my Dremel and used a sanding roll to shave down the rubber cup that's on the machine. If you take about 1/8" off of the rubber cup, you don't need the washer anymore and the backing plate will spin freely. It is a much more elegant solution and will prevent this damage to your backing plate.

- Patrick
 

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Patrick, I'm going with one of two solutions I've come up with.
I may modify the plate or go the sanding solution.

I think the washer mod is a bust.
Marc has pointed out there's only metal on the sides about the depth of a washer. So once you do the washer mod your on 100% plastic then it starts destroying the plate recess.
The backing plate is like the spanner wrench. So if the plate fully rounds out you'll have to carefully drill apart to get to the arbor so you can hold it and loosen the bolt.

SHAME ON YOU KB!

I see why Rupes doesn't void the warranty. Your not hurting the machine..
Sales just go up for the backing plates.
 
The washer mod is a poor solution because it reduces the grip length of the driveshaft which will result in damage to your backing plate. Sanding down the rubber cup maintains the full grip length of the driveshaft and still allows the plate to spin freely. It just takes a few minutes with a Dremel. Use a lower speed and take your time or else you melt the plastic and it gets messy. I think I used a 120 grit sanding roll.

- Patrick
 
You do know you can take off the shroud that resists the BP instead of adding a washer right? It is just rubber and pulls right off.
 
Not needed IMHO. I have machines with and without the washer and to me there's ZERO difference. As you use your machine the shroud begins to wear down anyways and spins freely without the washer mod.

I believe Rupes tested this washer mod theory and didn't find it to make any improvement. Todd just actually commented on this in another thread.
 
I don't use the washer mod and I get perfect results with my 21. If I didn't get great results with a tool that was designed without a washer and has been successfully used by many, I would check my technique and not question the design of the tool. My Rupes works very well as it was designed. As far as I know Rupes does not endorse the washer mod. Maybe at SEMA Rupes will address the washer mod. Rupes should not honor warrantees where tools have been modified. IMHO.
 
Not needed IMHO. I have machines with and without the washer and to me there's ZERO difference. As you use your machine the shroud begins to wear down anyways and spins freely without the washer mod.

I believe Rupes tested this washer mod theory and didn't find it to make any improvement. Todd just actually commented on this in another thread.

I wouldn't say it makes zero difference, but the difference on pad rotation and correctional ability when applied to the surface is very minimal.

I think the most important thing to remember is that RUPES designed and engineered - in house - the large diameter orbital polisher revolution. It took nearly 3 years of development, as there weren't any other designs to copy or mimic.

The idea of the anti-spin shroud was built into the design for a number of reasons. Keep in mind, it would have been cheaper and less complicated to design the tool without such a feature.

The BigFoot "System" was designed from the ground up. Part of this was creating specific foam types that will withstand the stress and movement of the large diameter orbit, part of it was developing a counter weight system to match the weight of the Rupes pads, part of this was engineering compounds that will will not absorb into the pad and destroy the delicate balance, part of this was venting backing pad and using open-celled foam for heat control, part of this was using a velcro system with enough shear strength to limit wasted movement, and part of this was the Anti Spin Shroud.

Without the Anti Spin Shroud in place (or disengaged), the pads will be allowed to spin up to a very high rate of speed when the machine is operated in free air, almost matching the orbital speed (in the 21's case, about 4200 RPM). A pad spinning that fast is not only subject to flying off at a pretty good clip, but the foam structure of the pad is compromised. If you don't run you machine in free air, which most experienced technicians do not, this part isn't really a big deal. However, one of BigFoot's biggest selling points is the system can take somebody with no experience and allow them to produce professional results very quickly. It's gotta be safe for everybody.

What causes pads to rotate on an orbital, in the simplest terms, is unbalance. When the pad is applied to a workpiece, the amount of unbalance is multiplied and the rate of rotation will increase dramatically.

In our testing, with our pads, and our compounds, removing the function of the Anti Spin Shroud shows no benefit. However, if you notice a benefit for your polishing style, please keep the considerations about pad rotation in free air that I mentioned earlier in your head.
 
I can't say enough about how the Rupes machines have changed both my work and my health! No more painful hands or elbows after polishing all day! I will say however the Kamikaze backing plate has made an excellent product even better. Smoother and more able to remove defects faster. At this point in my career I need as much help as possible to get through an all day polish. After trying it once at Esoteric I was sold! With a microfiber pad it just makes it even more aggressive. So corrections are done faster. I have also found it doesn't slow down on curves, and is very easy to use one handed.
 
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