rotary help !

chip douglas

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help !
Ok, here's what I do : I wash my car, rinse it, let it air dry, then break out the rotary, prime my Meg's finishing pad, so no area is dry--I prime it with compound of course . I smear the compound round with the rotary off. I then start buffing with 3M's machine glaze 5937, and keep the pad flat and also overlap each stroke by 50%, and buff it till it flashes. Then I take it in the sun, wash it and inspect for holograms, and although I've done all the above mentioned, I still get them everytime.

Does everyone here, wash the car after you're done buffing/polishing using a rotary and take it outside in the sunlight to look for holograms ? Or use a 50/50 water/alcohol mix as an alternative ? Of course I wipe it using quick detailer I don't see holograms, but it only hides them I guess. From up close they appear as very very fine and closely grouped scratches. I've tried rubbing them off with my finger but no can do, they stay there. I've tried changing pad and still no luck. I think 3M's 5937 leaves some very very fine marks, or perhaps it is the pad, and honestly I'd tend to think the pad is responsible for such scratches. They're not washmitt scratches as I'Ve learned the difference the hard way this summer .

I need help, as I can't see what it is im doing wrong......and I'd like to use the rotary only to make the finish perfect. The PC would cut it for me but I prefer to master the hardest--the rotary.


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What color is the car?
What speed are you spining at
Also you are using a compound? that is a agressive product and needs to be followed up with a polish to help reduce the swrils that you are sitll seeing. I do not use any of the Megs line but that is a glaze not sure that is the right product or at least in the right order.

Why not use a swril remover for the first step if that is what you are trying to do?
 
What color is the car?
What speed are you spining at
Also you are using a compound? that is a agressive product and needs to be followed up with a polish to help reduce the swrils that you are sitll seeing. I do not use any of the Megs line but that is a glaze not sure that is the right product or at least in the right order.

[I'm using 3M's PI III MG, which is a bodyshop safe swirl remover, so it is very soft, and shouldn't leave any marring/holograms. I'm spinning the bufer at 1400 rpm. The front fenders and hood were repainted last fall, so on them Im only using the swirl remover, as the paint is brand new, but on the remaining part of the vehicle, I've done a fine cut priot to the swirl remover.
 
Chip

Should have asked but what type of pad are you using. I can undertand why you are still seeing swirls. Are you getting less swirls or the same amount is left?

I have a black BMW and its no where near swirls free I've learned to live with some. I use a lot of Poorboys product which has reduced the swirls greatly. However I find that after using a SWR I thnen go to polsih and waxing stages and that tends to fill what is left on the CC. The finish on my car is show room quality. I guess what I am saying is finsih the a panel and see what that looks like.
Sorry I've not been more help!
 
I also just noticed that this is the second thread about the same subject you have started. Gary Jones gave you some hands on advice on that one. He said the same thing I did use a cutting pad then go to a polishing pad
 
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