Rich Griot offers QEW/ONR-like product
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SuperBee364
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BlackSunshine said:
backwoods_lex said:
The only spray on, wipe off waterless wash product I've tried is Chemical Guys ONE. It's OK when used on dusty cars, but I certainly wouldn't use it on a *dirty* car. It does leave a layer of wax behind, as well as a great shine.
Like backwoods_lex, I much prefer the ONR type bucket and water products. They appear to be much safer.
reparebrise
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PistolWhip said:
The problem is not that we won't have enough water to wash our cars with, it's that there won't ba nay fresh water for fish to swim in, there won't be enough unpoluted water for you childern to spend a day at the beach(they can go to the beach, but don,T go in the water.
Fresh water is a finite resource, so why not do your best to make your time on the earth less devestating. When your car is realy not that dirty, use a waterless or ONR instead of the foam gun(the worst poluter by far) and hose? Not only will your car be nice and clean, but you will have saved the life of a few fish, and possibly extended the amount of time where you will not pay more for a gallon of water than you do for a gallon of gas. Many societies around the world use less water than we do, and still live comfortable productive lives. Water is not a right it's a privilage.
Here is the latest droubt map for the US US Drought Monitor.
Accumulator
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BlackSunshine said:
Thanks for posting that.
How would you compare it to SpeedShine? I *do* like SpeedShine on vehicles that get wax (as opposed to sealants) and so this Spray On Car Wash stuff has piqued my interest.
And in one catalog they were giving it away with certain orders.
Noting that I have very little use for rinseless/nonconventional wash products, I do sometimes appreciate a better-cleaning QD (e.g., I'll reach for FK146 instead of FK425 for certain jobs) and I'm wondering how the Griot's Spray On Car Wash would work in that context.
topnotchtouch
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DavidB said:
In a lot of places it is already illegal to wash your car at home
A lot of the SouthEast is in a severe drought and here where I live we are not allowed to use water outdoors for anything other than limited lawn watering and they are enforcing it...http://www.cityofclemson.org/files/Root/2008Drought_Media_Release_Rev.pdf
I am limited to the coin-ops where it is still legal to wash your car.
I have never really been fond of the waterless washes but I really don't have a choice these days.
Junebug
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We were under the dreaded water rationing last summer in Raleigh, thank God I live in the county north of town and have my own well. Well guess what, it started raining and raining and now every damn lake, pond, mudhole and swamp is over flowing. Running out of water...hah! I don't believe in being wasteful, but I don't put any stock in the "global warming, sky is fallin, next ice age crap" the psuedo scientist and Owl Gore crowd quack about. I'm using a spray and wipe product from a little local company (majestic solutions) only because my friggin yard is so saturated that I'm afraid the septic tank will float up to the surface. Now, if I could just get some water buffalo and rice planted!
Accumulator said:
I honestly don't think you would find yourself reaching for this product too often. I MUCH prefer Speed Shine (yes, even after my hiatus, I still love Speed Shine just as much as ever) as it just buffs off so much nicer. If all you're wanting is a "better cleaning QD" I think you'll be perfectly happy sticking with Speed Shine. The Spray on Car Wash is just a lot of work, and if my car is dirty enough to need to go through the extra work, I'll just use ONR, and it wouldn't take much longer than fussing with the Griot's product.
Have you tried Adam's Detail Spray? When I'm wanting a better cleaning QD to use on an extra dusty surface, I reach for it or Speed Shine. The Adam's has great cleaning power and is a joy to work with under any condition.
topnotchtouch
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JuneBug said:
Wish that were the case here but Lake Hartwell is down so far that there is land that hasn't been uncovered in many many years. We aren't talking inches here, I think the last number I heard was the lake is down more than 12 feet. Just to bring that into perspective, Lake Hartwell runs a good bit of the length of the border between SC and GA. It is a BIG lake...
The water restrictions here are more than likely going to be in effect for years...
Accumulator
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BlackSunshine said:
OK, thanks for the additional info. When it comes to QDs, you always
come to mind
Yeah, I'm sorta surprised how much I still like SpeedShine. On waxes I simply love it.
Never tried the Adams :think: I gotta admit I knee-jerk away from Adams stuff based on having seen their car washing video, which struck me as a perfect *negative* example. Yeah, I know that's not fair..
I oughta avoid buying more QDs anyhow as I *still* have all those gallons that I had back when you and I were first going over this stuff (well, I probably have about 2 fewer gallons than I did then
). I tried the FK146 on a whim when I was ordering FK425 anyhow, and wouldn't you know I ended up liking the stuff for cleaning. For slightly more dirty stuff, when most people would reach for ONR/etc., I just wash conventionally. But now and then the FK146 is just perfect.
But anyhow, I *was* curious about the Griot's stuff and I'm sure glad it was *you* who tried it, what with our past history of QD comparisons :xyxthumbs
Oh, that reminds me... some of my QwikShine (it was *NOT* my old EF Clear Pearl, I'd misremembered that) caused pseudo-holograms on the Yukon's 476S! What a PIA, having to rewash that beast over such a thing :furious:
Accumulator said:OK, thanks for the additional info. When it comes to QDs, you always
come to mind
Yeah, I'm sorta surprised how much I still like SpeedShine. On waxes I simply love it.
Never tried the Adams :think: I gotta admit I knee-jerk away from Adams stuff based on having seen their car washing video, which struck me as a perfect *negative* example. Yeah, I know that's not fair..
I oughta avoid buying more QDs anyhow as I *still* have all those gallons that I had back when you and I were first going over this stuff (well, I probably have about 2 fewer gallons than I did then
For slightly more dirty stuff, when most people would reach for ONR/etc., I just wash conventionally. But now and then the FK146 is just perfect.
But anyhow, I *was* curious about the Griot's stuff and I'm sure glad it was *you* who tried it, what with our past history of QD comparisons :xyxthumbs
Oh, that reminds me... some of my old EF Clear Pearl caused pseudo-holograms on the Yukon's 476S! What a PIA, having to rewash that beast over such a thing :furious:
It's a shame as great of a product as Speed Shine is that some of his other products are lackluster. I THOUGHT I liked Best of Show after I learned how to use it, but it was just too much work compared to dozens of other similarly priced/similar performing products, so I ditched my bottle. I wasn't favorably impressed with the machine polishes I tried, either. I still love the Interior Cleaner, Wheel Cleaner, and Car Wash, and a few of the random detailing tools I've ordered are nice, too. I also find myself using the 3" orbital on my motorcycle a lot.
I hear you about Adam's videos, they're pretty sorry, but I think you would be pleased with the Detail Spray. Or, if the name makes you shy away, try the CG equivalent. I have also found Danase Turbo Shine to be very similar, although it seems it buffs out even quicker than the Adam's. It really is a great all around QD, IMO.
I have never tried FK146 because to be honest I was never crazy about 425. It was slick as snot, but it streaked for me. Maybe I should try it again as I haven't had a bottle in probably 3 1/2 years.
I can't belive you still have some EFCP!! That stuff must have awesome shelf life. I really enjoyed that product over the carnaubas I was using back then. Now that I have a silver and a white car, I'm back to mostly sealants, but I still dabble with some waxes.
Here's what I still use most often in the way of QD's these days:
Speed Shine
Z6
Meg's UQD
Adam's
Spray and Wipe
Crystal Mist
Others that I like but don't usually reach for:
#34
Clearkote QS
Final Touch
Duragloss FCS
Prima Slick
I'm also taking a liking to some Surf City Garage products, and I tried Rejex sealant for the first time this weekend after polishing with the new Meg's Ultimate Compound with my Flex. I'm hoping the Rejex will last a long time on my white daily driver G8. It sure is slick, and easy to use. Wish I would have jumped on the Flex wagon a long time ago.... what an awesome machine.
Accumulator
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BlackSunshine- Yeah, some of Griot's stuff is great but some, well, isn't. IMO people here tend to bash Griot's a bit more than is deserved (probably because of the prices).
Hey, I mis-spoke
It was *NOT* my EFCP that messed up the DenaliXL, it was QuikShine. Sorry about that...
Yeah, I still have plenty of that EFCP that I wouldn't sell you Who knows *how* long it'll last...must be over 10 years old by now.
Interesting about the Adams/CG/Danase, glad I have you doing my QD product testing for me
The only issues I've had with FK425 were when I used it on 476S, on a few occasions it seemed to do a solvent-effect that lead to pseudo holograms. Looked the same as the ones I got with the QuikShine but wouldn't buff off very easily. I'm sorta leaning towards using the FK425 on sealants and the SpeedShine on waxes.
Hey, I mis-spoke
It was *NOT* my EFCP that messed up the DenaliXL, it was QuikShine. Sorry about that...Yeah, I still have plenty of that EFCP that I wouldn't sell you
Who knows *how* long it'll last...must be over 10 years old by now.Interesting about the Adams/CG/Danase, glad I have you doing my QD product testing for me
The only issues I've had with FK425 were when I used it on 476S, on a few occasions it seemed to do a solvent-effect that lead to pseudo holograms. Looked the same as the ones I got with the QuikShine but wouldn't buff off very easily. I'm sorta leaning towards using the FK425 on sealants and the SpeedShine on waxes.
I havn't been following too closely on the rebadging stuff but who makes PB's rinse-less wash? Also which product is the QEW?.
One more thing, I haven't purchased anything from Adam's though I intend to (quick detailer is what I have in mind). I did see the car wash video it's not THAT bad, if you want a reason to not buy a product, just watch those production car care product videos, the guy, phil, will give you a reason to not buy that stuff.
One more thing, I haven't purchased anything from Adam's though I intend to (quick detailer is what I have in mind). I did see the car wash video it's not THAT bad, if you want a reason to not buy a product, just watch those production car care product videos, the guy, phil, will give you a reason to not buy that stuff.
DaGonz
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DavidB said:
I'm more worried about the clunkers leaking oil, coolant and grease all over the roadway than a little washwater running down the driveway and into the gutter. :werd:
On that note... the car wash across the street from Headquarters had a problem with the spray wax they apply to the car as it goes through the tunnel... apparently, one of their employees refilled the dispenser and "adjusted" the soultion ratio...
The residual water/wax solution dripping from the cars after coming out of the blow dry section of the tunnel caused the sidewalk in front to become like a sheet of ice. One young lady took a toss on it and we ended up with an incident to see if she was okay. We applied some speedy dry to the area to soak up the solution; the manager dialed in the correct ratio and all was right with the world again... :grinno:
Accumulator
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DaGonz said:
Heh heh, they oughta find a happy medium in-between causing public safety issues and having the usual too-weak mix
Glad the lady who fell was OK.
David Fermani
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DaGonz said:
Amen to that! I love flooding my car with water too much to try a waterless wash. It's like eating a Pizza without cheese or sauce.
topnotchtouch
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DaGonz said:
David Fermani said:
Double Amen to that.
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corrswitch
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Looks similar to Spray and Wipe. I'm enjoying using my combination of ONR and S&W depending on the situation. So far, have not gotten in trouble with the authorities yet and definitely seeing how much water I'm saving. On the towel and mitt cleaning side, doing my best to make the least impact as possible as well.
I'm glad there are more choices coming out.
I'm glad there are more choices coming out.
Greg Nichols
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Fallguy said:
YES, very expensive for wash on my exploder I was estimated to cost 3$ vs pennies for ONR. I feel like ONR is superior, it does not leave behind a heavy coating that might need buffing off.
You are correct about the Multi level marketing.
Cheers,
GREG