review on Bisell extractor, pic included.

[Bluedog]

some of u might remember i posted about my friend needing help removing overspray from a newly painted bumper.



well he tried meguiars clay bar first, that didnt work. then that magic clay (red) bar but it still didnt work. strangly when he used the clay bar, he got black residue on the bar... his paint is silver. i thought of doing some wet sanding very carefully but its not a good idea since its not my car.



can any of u paint pros tell me what other ways are there in removing this crazy over spray? can anyone explain why the clay bar had black residue on it? we were thinking of just repainting it but thats our last resolution. so yea, ANY suggestions and ideas would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Lemonxxs]

Clay is the prefered method of removing paint since it will not damage the car's paint all that much.



The black stuff could be road tar or carbon from the exhaust.



Some tips.



Wash car first and rinse.



Make new soap solution.



Using soap solution use Clay Magic red clay and do small areas at a time.



If the new bumper paint was not cured you may not be able to remove the overspray because it may have cured into the topcoat. If this is the case wet sanding and another top coat would make it look great. else wet sand and then polish the wet sand marks out. but you have to becareful there due to thinnning the paint while wet sanding over a larger area.

 

[Bluedog]

the car is prefectly clean when he clayed it. again both clay bars did not work and didnt seem to show signs of much improvement after he used it.



the overspray is mainly on the fenders and hood area, not the bumper itself.

 

[Brad B]

If your certain that it's overspray then my next step would be an abrasive like PPCL or FI. Foam applicator.

 

[Lemonxxs]

I am amazed the Clay did not work. I had an overspray problem with industrial paints; epoxy, polyurethanes etc. and the clay got it off easily. It removed year old overspray from my old car.



Hmmmmmmmmm. Maybe it is not overspray??? Does it feel bumpy? maybe when they painted they accidently got some thiner sprayed onto the good panels which ruined the paint??



Just a thought.



Post some close up pics!

 

[imported_doug]

I still don't understand why he simply doesn't go back to the original painter and demand that they make the job right. proper masking and dealing with overspray is a fundamental concept - it isn't limited to high end paint jobs. If this guy had to take the painter to small claims court to make it right, he would win.

 

[Guest]

I agree with carguy... It's like trying to fix a car yourself that is still under warranty. Take it back and demand action! Rev up your engine some

 

[Bluedog]

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >

<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by carguy [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I still don't understand why he simply doesn't go back to the original painter and demand that they make the job right. proper masking and dealing with overspray is a fundamental concept - it isn't limited to high end paint jobs. If this guy had to take the painter to small claims court to make it right, he would win. [/b]</blockquote>
thats what i first suggested him to do. but the shop he went to was pretty cheap and i guess he just doesnt want to go through the trouble of claims courts and such...

 

[Glozz]

As uncomfortable as it is (I know the feeling) he has the right of being a paying customer. He should go back to the shop that did the work, and as them to make it right.



Keep in mind that being mature and direct will get him some sort of results. Even if it's being told "No we will not correct our mistake". Then it would seem to me that he would have legal recoarse in getting the court involved.



Perhaps he could just ask them to clay the areas in front of him and he could watch the way they do it.



Sorry he's going through this type of issue. Is this company rated with the BBB? If so he can complain to them as well.

 

[CosminTX]

i try put together a review of little green Bisell extractor.
is a light unit , good for mobile detailers or car owners with a lot of cloth inside the car or for fam with kids & pets
when you remove stain from seats or when you clean them you may wanna work the whole piece where the stain is, is very important.
i have a unit similar with this:

tools: extractor , a upholstery brush , a microfiber towel ,apc+ meguiar`s, water , vinegar. last 3 in sprayer bottle.
i first pre-soak the seats , 2-3 spray with water , light on seats , if carpets than i add more water. sometimes i use the hot water but the spray is too wide and i can`t use it in interior.
i follow with 1-2 spray of cleaner apc+ , let it sit for few minutes , i agitate the solution with the brush.
using the extractor with pressure on extractor head i get most of the cleaning solution out, than i spray some more water agitate again and extract , i wipe with a mf towel if any residue left.
for final i use vinegar, spray few mist and agitate with brush, than extract.
here are few jobs bisell extractor handle. i would say is a good unit but should be more durable.

 

[Old Pirate]

Wow, great turnaround there Cosmintx

 

[imported_gewb]

...sometimes i use the hot water but the spray is too wide and i can`t use it in interior.

Thanks for the write up!

So, does this mean you seldom use the machine's water supply, that you hand apply/spray the water/cleaner, then use the machine to extract the water/cleaner?

Regards,
GEWB

 

[CosminTX]

Thanks for the write up!

So, does this mean you seldom use the machine's water supply, that you hand apply/spray the water/cleaner, then use the machine to extract the water/cleaner?

Regards,
GEWB

if i work on carpets , outside the vehicle , usually on driveway than i use the hot water supply, inside the vehicle i have a separate bottle of water and local spray , that way i control the water i use on interior.
i do agitate the cleaner with brush before extractor.
cosmin