Review of Opt Hyper Compouns and Hyper Polish Spray

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Has anyone had their cars 'redone' after swirling the crap out of it? If so, whats involved? Whats the cost? Will it look like new?



Ryan
 
It all depends on "swirl the crap out of"...



If the finish is not too badly damaged it could be saved..Ie enough clear coat (if clear coated) left scratches not too deep etc etc that it could be saved on not need repainting.



Maybe you could post a close up pic??



BTW Welcome.
 
Its a year 2000 atlantic blue car and has been compounded with a heavy creme compound called True Grit. I followed it up with Perfect It III. The results were as expected but now I am sick of the swirl marks in the sun and especially under the lights. I believe the damage is done to the clear but who knows for sure. The fact is I am new to these products such as Zaino, Klasse, BF, and Pinnacle and hadn't any knowledge how to before I damaged my finish. Please, if you can, let me know some ways to fix my finish. And set me up with the right products and the process to properly detail the car once its 'fixed'.

My email is rtbnj@comcast.net if you wish to privately reply.

Later

Ryan
 
You have too much clear off, and if so, more than .3 to .5 mil, it is a "sponge" now and will never be easy to take care off.



The clear will start to look cloudy in a few more months usually.



It will etch very easily, mar easily, etc.



Sure, it can be polished up to look good for awhile, but, if more than .3 mil removed, don't expect it to hold up.



Ketch

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Ryan, how did you compound the vehicle? True Grit is a product from Malco and is quite aggresive with a rotary. However if you did not use a rotary then 2 things happened. First the abrasives could not break down in order to polish the surface, secondly you put a ton of swirls in the clear because it acts like 1200 grit sanpaper.The good news is a quality detailer can fix the problem with a rotary.

If you did use a rotary you would need an additional step with a less aggresive product than Perfect It III using a foam pad and speeds of 1000-1200rpm. The swirls are normal after compounding but it is a 2/3 step process to get rid of them with each product and pad being less aggresive.

Also there is not a car out there that in the right light doesn't have some swirls. Good Luck!
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Ryan [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Its a year 2000 atlantic blue car and has been compounded with a heavy creme compound called True Grit. I followed it up with Perfect It III. The results were as expected but now I am sick of the swirl marks in the sun and especially under the lights. I believe the damage is done to the clear but who knows for sure. The fact is I am new to these products such as Zaino, Klasse, BF, and Pinnacle and hadn't any knowledge how to before I damaged my finish. Please, if you can, let me know some ways to fix my finish. And set me up with the right products and the process to properly detail the car once its 'fixed'.

My email is rtbnj@comcast.net if you wish to privately reply.

Later

Ryan [/b]</blockquote>Ryan,

Welcome to Autopia (I see you're a relatively new poster) . . . you'll find just about everything you need to know and friendly help at nearly every turn around here.

As to your particular problem . . . when you say the car was "compounded", was a rotary polisher used, or was the work done by hand or an orbital? Depending on how agressive this "True Grit" compound really is, and how it was applied, it may not be as bad as Ron makes it sound (after all, none of us have actually examined the paint finish; it may be a bit premature to declare the patient "DOA").

You might give the Perfect-It III another try; it may just be that you haven't given the milder P3 enough time to work out the marring from the more aggressive compound. A good orbital buffer is a big help here; if you search the forums for "Porter Cable", you'll find a number of posts on what seems to be the most popular orbital buffer on the forum.

I'm sure other posters will have more suggestions, but don't give up on it just yet . . .

Best of luck,
Tort
 
Since the paint has been polished with a pretty agressive abrasive I would get the paint thickness measured with a Electronic Thickness Gauage before you apply anymore abrasives. You want to make sure you have enough clearcoat to work with before you start anything, as Ron said you don't want to remove more than .3 of your clear or your in big trouble.
 
I have a question about a ten year old black car with a clear coat, oxidation, and a few scratches. Is FI-II a rubbing compound? Is it definitly safe for the clear coat? If there is a clear coat, is it ok if some black gets on the yellow cutting pad when used with an PC? Or does that mean I'm in deep trouble...
 
If the car has clearcoat but you are getting the basecoat color on the pad that means you have gone through the clear. :down And no FI-II is not a compound, it's a machine polish.
 
Review of Opt Hyper Compound and Hyper Polish Spray

So I bought the new Optimum Twins to give it a try as it is supposed to be okay to polish with these in the sun.
Before I purchased it, I called Dr. G at Optimum and spoke with him for about 45 minutes. I have to say that the President of any company that takes the time to speak at length with his customers really says a lot about him and his company.

On to the review:
Optimum Hyper Compound Spray:
The thing that stands out to me about this product was the fact that the polish seems to be too thick to spray out of the bottle properly. The polish didn't mist out like I thought it would. It made a little bit of a mess.
It did do a tremendous job of doing what a good compound is supposed to do. It took care of all the defects without much effort. It was a bit difficult to remove though. The cut is slightly less then M105, but it is really convenient to use. I used it with a Surbuf pad and the results were great.
Overall Score: 7.5 out of 10

Optimum Hyper Polish Spray:
This product is a killer!!! Still sprayed out of the bottle a little thick, but not as bad as the Compound. It couldn't have been any easier to use and produced AWESOME results. If there was any residue left over from the compound, the polish easily removed it. I used it on a LC Hydro Tech Tangerine pad and it finished down beautifully.
Overall Score: 10 out of 10

Both Products were used with a GG 6" RO with 5.5" pads.
 
Bunky said:
If Optimum sold the Hyper polishes in regular bottles, would it really be any different?
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Al,
If the sprayer worked as it it should, this is a huge time saver!!! It also coats the pad more evenly, so there is no need to prime it. Saves product as well.
 
Thanks for the revew! A conversation with Dr. G is definitely time well spent. Props to him for spending 45 minutes. Thats technical support!
 
Nice review Barry. I agree with you, the polish is great but the compound is a little behind. I was also expecting a finer mist of product rather than a thick product. I feel like its no different than throwing 105 or 205 in a spray bottle.

I also have talked to Dr. G when I purchased Opti-Coat. He was on the phone with me for a very long time making sure I was totally comfortable with the product. He is a great guy to work with.
 
Great to hear the feedback from multiple people.
I won't rush to get the compound since I have a bunch of 105
Jon, would you give the polish a 10/10 as well?
 
I had similar issues with spraying the HC. I will say they were very easy to work in, like polishing with butter. I also liked the fact that they dust very little.



I hope to play around with them more soon.
 
CEE DOG said:
Thanks for the revew! A conversation with Dr. G is definitely time well spent. Props to him for spending 45 minutes. Thats technical support!
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Corey,
Dr. G is great. He is a very hands on guy and wants to know what we think of his products. He is a great front man for his company.

07 z-oh-6 said:
What color paint did you use these on?
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Dark Metalic Grey.

PAR Detailing said:
Nice review Barry. I agree with you, the polish is great but the compound is a little behind. I was also expecting a finer mist of product rather than a thick product. I feel like its no different than throwing 105 or 205 in a spray bottle.

I also have talked to Dr. G when I purchased Opti-Coat. He was on the phone with me for a very long time making sure I was totally comfortable with the product. He is a great guy to work with.
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True, but there is very little dusting!
Yes he is awesome.

CEE DOG said:
Great to hear the feedback from multiple people.
I won't rush to get the compound since I have a bunch of 105
Jon, would you give the polish a 10/10 as well?
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The compound is very easy to apply with little to no dusting.

wendell jarvis said:
I have seen some great Video reviews of this product.........like Barry said.....the polish looks really promising
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I couldn't be happier with the polish. If only it would mist out of the bottle better.

RaskyR1 said:
I had similar issues with spraying the HC. I will say they were very easy to work in, like polishing with butter. I also liked the fact that they dust very little.

I hope to play around with them more soon.
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Very true Chad!
 
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