Review: HD UNO, HD Speed

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So I got an old car to work on, a 1962? Thunderbird. The hood was recently painted, couple fenders, doors, and fastback cover were single stage, while the rest was clear coated. It was a total nightmare and it didn't have to be 100% perfect (nor was that really possible in the time frame I had). So, in keeping with my word to give UNO more testing, along with Speed, I began to fully insepect the car, and it wasn't pretty.



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AFter one pass with UNO, GG6 and LC 5.5" Orange flat pad. Didn't touch the RIDS, but I didn't really expect it too either.



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AFter the second pass with UNO. Still RIDS left over, but I was ok with that. The red doesn't show all the micro marring, but they were there.



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UNO vs. single stage paint on fiber glass, mixed results (two passes here)

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I had to break out the Makita for certain areas, using the same LC orange flat pad and UNO, still heavy micro marring but it did get a few RIDS out. Still seems UNO finishes better on a DA than a rotary.



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After one DA pass, and one rotary pass. Few RIDS still visible



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I followed this with Speed on GG6, H20 cyan at speed 5. Gave an excellent shine, and removed the micro marring. It didn't touch any of the scratches or anything deper than the UNO marring though.



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This was a worst case scenario as there was at least three different types of paint on the car, it was heavily swirled and marred, and I had a limited time to finish it. UNO had limited dusting which was great, and the Speed definitely did it's job. I'll wait on durability tests after a few months, I'm still hoping it will replace Klasse for me.
 
Great car to test it on.



Unfortunately an Orange pad is not that great of a leveler, not for me. It is used to clean up after wool or MF pads when I detail. With extreme pressure on the pc, it can level rids, but too much work.



My very first detail with the original UNO - this is what made me switch to UNO overnight. I used the old HD UNO pad, lots of pressure, after 1 long and 1 short pass



Trashed Acura paint



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After UNO



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The product works. :)
 
On this particular car, the owner was concerned about removing too much clear as the majority of the car had original paint, so I had to take it SOMEWHAT easy. That's a great turnaround you got but just using UNO, I can't even come close to that. I don't think I should have to use wool unless the clear was just the hardest around.
 
You don't mention what you are used to using, but UNO isn't as hard of a cut as 105. For me it gets about 65% there (same pad/machine). I usually have to do two light passes where I could get by with one pass of 105. That said, I can do two passes much faster than doing one pass of 105 and then having to deal with the dust that gets everywhere. On most cars I can get by without taping everything using UNO. With 105 the cars look like a mummy.
 
Dan said:
You don't mention what you are used to using, but UNO isn't as hard of a cut as 105. For me it gets about 65% there (same pad/machine). I usually have to do two light passes where I could get by with one pass of 105. That said, I can do two passes much faster than doing one pass of 105 and then having to deal with the dust that gets everywhere. On most cars I can get by without taping everything using UNO. With 105 the cars look like a mummy.
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I was hoping UNO would replace 105, but so far it's only better in the dust department.
 
There are a number of reasons why one should use wool.



1 - safer



2 - cuts faster



3 - easier to control



Did you measure the paint and how much clear were you actually removing?



RZJZA80 said:
On this particular car, the owner was concerned about removing too much clear as the majority of the car had original paint, so I had to take it SOMEWHAT easy. That's a great turnaround you got but just using UNO, I can't even come close to that. I don't think I should have to use wool unless the clear was just the hardest around.
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105 is very special in the speed department.



UNO most definitely replaced 105 for me. It has the cutting ability to tackle any paint, one just needs to be smart and use the right tools. m2c



RZJZA80 said:
I was hoping UNO would replace 105, but so far it's only better in the dust department.
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Thomas Dekany said:
There are a number of reasons why one should use wool.



1 - safer



2 - cuts faster



3 - easier to control



Did you measure the paint and how much clear were you actually removing?
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No, it came straight from the body shop where it was being worked on and they told me where to be careful, mainly the original single stage areas.



Why do you say wool is safer? you mean safer than foam? In what way?
 
Thomas Dekany said:
105 is very special in the speed department.



UNO most definitely replaced 105 for me. It has the cutting ability to tackle any paint, one just needs to be smart and use the right tools. m2c
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I'm smart and I'm using the same tools as everyone else, except HD specific pads, and 105 just cuts faster and finishes nicer on the few cars I've tried it on so far. Like I said, I've used UNO because of the dusting issue of 105, but I'm still hoping it will replace it.
 
Yeah, I don't think you will find anyone here saying UNO cuts faster than 105. IMO, it is less work and faster in your overall workflow. Mainly because of the low dusting and wide working window, but I'll take any win that results in faster overall results.
 
Not everyone else:D



I cut with the black wool or purple foamed wool pads. that is why it replaced 105. You do the same. you use a rotary or GG?



RZJZA80 said:
I'm smart and I'm using the same tools as everyone else, except HD specific pads, and 105 just cuts faster and finishes nicer on the few cars I've tried it on so far. Like I said, I've used UNO because of the dusting issue of 105, but I'm still hoping it will replace it.
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Dan said:
You don't mention what you are used to using, but UNO isn't as hard of a cut as 105. For me it gets about 65% there (same pad/machine). I usually have to do two light passes where I could get by with one pass of 105. That said, I can do two passes much faster than doing one pass of 105 and then having to deal with the dust that gets everywhere. On most cars I can get by without taping everything using UNO. With 105 the cars look like a mummy.
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What pads/machine/speed/arm speed etc do you use and only need 2 passes?? Is it hard or soft paint?? A biginner just looking for sucessful methods. Thanks!
 
pwaug said:
What pads/machine/speed/arm speed etc do you use and only need 2 passes?? Is it hard or soft paint?? A biginner just looking for sucessful methods. Thanks!
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I'm using a GG6 or a rotary. The GG6 has one speed as far as I'm concerned, 6, the rest of them are just to ramp the speed up and avoid splatter! I usually use 5" white pads or 6" megs maroon depending on level of cut needed. Just to be clear, I'm not saying two passes are all that is needed, I'm saying I need two passes to every one pass of Megs 105. I mostly deal with Audi/VW/MB paint, so its all pretty hard. I've got a youtube posted somewhere here showing me using UNO and the GG6 if you want to see speed/motions.
 
I used to work a lot with 105 many years ago,it was the faster polish in cutting habbilities in certain parts in the car.It leaves marring sometimes or holograms,but it finished very well to be honest.The big problem was DUST.Horrible! Three years ago I tested UNO.It's true it was slower than 105,but open time and no dust were great! I started to use UNO and Menzerna Intensive Polish as a combo.For me Menzerna 203 was the best polish (medium)...but NOW with HD POlish I've changed again...UNO and POLISH (or Speed) are the winners.

Obviously some compunds are more agressive than UNO,others finish better...but UNO is NO dust,great open time,and good price (in professional use is an important thing).Everything makes UNO a very good election.



I agree with you than 3D is able to create a SUPER COMPOUND to be used only with high speed in body shop use,but UNO with D/A in amateur use is PERFECT,that post is an exemple,everybody can detail a car with D/A,orange pad,UNO and green/blue pad and SPEED/POLISH.Slower than a professional,of course,but with NO RISK.

Thanks for reading.

Bye from Barcelona!!!
 
I don't understand how "open time", which I think means the time before the compound/polish flashes, is necessarily a good thing. I personally don't want to spend 10 minutes polishing just one section, I like how 105 flashes quickly, but also cuts and levels very quickly, it's just the dust that annoys me. UNO, Polish, and Speed all seem to have endless flash times, I have to force myself to stop when I think it's good enough because otherwise, I'd sit there polishing one section for 30 minutes, if not more.
 
That is your style, and if you like to spend less time, use less product. Can you take a picture of a pad of yours with the amount of product that you use with UNO? Another one with 105?



Thanks
 
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