Return of the haze

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ptaylor_9849

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A few months back, I used my PC with a yellow pad and some Presta Ultra Cutting Creme Light on my black corvette hood. It removed the scratches within two passes but left the hood very gray and hazy. It took many, many passes with 106FF to restore the black and the gloss. However, I'm getting kinda nervous because the gray haze keeps returning. Then I polish it away with 106FF but it comes back again. Yesterday, I applied RMG, Yellow Cream Wax and Carnauba Moose Wax. The paint got a bit darker but the gray started poking through again by nightfall. Why does the haze keep returning?



Patrick
 
Sounds like you need to step up to a product/pad combo that will remove the Presta Ultra Light Cutting Cream swirling. What's Presta's next step after this. Can't be just a wax?
 
Kinda sounds like the glaze and wax are hiding the remaining compounding haze left by the ultra cutting cream light. Sounds like the 106FF doesn't have the ability to remove the compounding haze. Might want to try an intermediate polish, like a couple rounds of Menzerna Intensive Polish, or Optimum Compound. I'd try one of these with an orange pad. Since you're using a PC, I'd do at least two applications, then switch to a green pad with the 106ff and do at least another two passes with it. My problem with a PC hasn't ever been getting the cutting done, it's been getting the finish work done. Kinda seems like it takes a LOT more passes of the final polish to get the right look on hard clear coats with a PC.



106ff sometimes seems to hide compounding haze, too. You might want to try an alcohol wipedown after each applicaiton of the 106ff to see if the haze is still there or not.
 
Hey Patrick, One of these days we will have to meet up sometime so I can take a look at it. I know on Vettes the clear is so hard the rotory has a hard time sometimes.

I have my new menzerna po85rd3.02 that I could try on it. I worked on a vette this weekend with it and it performed excellent.
 
Excellent points. Thanks for your input. SuperBee, I also have a great deal of trouble trying to finish out with a PC after correction work at least on the vette. It's definately a different animal. I do not have any of these problems with my Toyota or Mazda cars. Recently, I tried a rotary on the hood at very slow speed (600) with an orange pad and 106FF. I kept the speed down because I've never used one before and didn't really want to learn on this car. That left holograms which I removed with my PC and the white pad. I thought I was all set and then the haze poked through again. I think David has a good point also about the need to up the aggressiveness of the polish. Rydawg, didn't you tell me that your friend with the vette is also seeing things re-appear on his car? If this helps at all, most of the gray haze re-appears on tight areas such as the edge of the hood where it meets the fender and where the hood slopes from the raised area in the center.

Rydawg, we need to meet.



Thanks,



Patrick
 
ya the 106 is only good for removing minor haze on vettes.



My friend is only having a problem on his hood where it got repainted and there is nothing I could do caue they wetsanded it too deep with too coarse of a paper. They did not leave me with much clear to begin with. The funny part is that him and I are the only ones that can spot them on the hood and can only be seen in certain angles in the direct sun. He only bought it to resell it anyway so he is not going to have it fixed. Other than that it looks outstanding.



I am working on a 2001 red vette that has never been polished, waxed, or sanded. The clear is so thick and has none of those wierd hazing straight spots like most do. I think most of these are caused by previous detailers/body shops using poor techniques while compounding. Most shops have a time limit and get frustrated with these super hard clears and use way too aggresive approach and hold the buffer in a spot too long. The couple vettes that I have seen this on is only on the hoods.



I would love to see the car so I know what would be the cure and if I can polish them out. My new menzerna 3.02 pro polish is amazing at what it can do.
 
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