replacement for lube from clay barring

forrest said:
Our testing shows claying removes most forms of paint protection.



Can you be a bit more specific. When you say "most" does that mean that there are some paint protection products that are not removed by claying? What are these products? How did you determine whether or not the protection was removed from the paint by claying? Specifically what test is done to determine the absence or presence of a protection product? I'm not doubting your testing but perhaps the very things that we all consider usual and customary indicators of paint protection are not good indicators after all?



How is my experience with water beading and the slippery feel of a sealant remaining after claying explained?



Please elaborate as this is really pretty interesting.
 
Ran into this really old thread and thought I'd answer this question.



Beading doesn't only occur because there is protection on top. Anyone who does bodywork, or spray jobs know that a fresh coat of paint finished beads.



The answer lies in the fact that a surface well taken care of even without wax or sealant has minimal oxidation. Because of the low oxidation, water molecules don't bond with the oxidation, and hence the water sits on top in the form of beads. Not enough bonding energy on the molecular level to break the surface tension of water that creates the beads.



Clay all you want, but I'd put something on top everytime I clay. If your clay is tough enough to pull embeded contaminants from the surface, it sure as hell is tough enough to pull a thin layer of sealant off.
 
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