Replacement for Klasse AIO

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valleyguy1

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I`ve been using Klasse AIO for many years and have been very happy with it. I recently moved and the bottle cracked and I lost all the product. As I went to order more, I hesitated and wondered if there is something better out there. I know there are tons of polishes and all in ones, but I don`t need anything aggressive, and I will be using FK1000p on top, which worked perfectly with the AIO.

Suggestions on something I might find better than AIO?
 
valleyguy1,
If you use FK1000p , which is a super sealer/wax.
Maybe a fine polish would be a way to add more depth, almost jeweling the paint. Then seal it with FK1000p.

Pinnacle Advanced Finishing polish
Rupes Diamond/white pads (sold on those white pads, the Best)
Sonax EX04-06

To name just a few.

:)
 
While I like to have options, and use both Zaino AIO and Autoglym Super Resin Polish for some things, IMO KAIO is simply a Staple Product that most everybody oughta have on the shelf. A jug lasts forever so I`d just buy more of that, at least if only having one AIO. It`s basically (functionally) nonabrasive nature is, IMO, a feature more often than not.

Note I`ve had absolutely ZERO evidence that putting FK1000P on bare paint, as opposed to over an AIO, results in greater longevity/durability. None whatsoever. When I post about how long the stuff last for me...citing timeframes that some find unbelievable, it`s *always* applied over top of something.

Just let any underlying product dry/cure/whatever it does before applying the Fk1000P as its solvents *can* mess with stuff if you don`t wait...can even mess with previous applications of FK1000P.
 
Accumulator said:
Note I`ve had absolutely ZERO evidence that putting FK1000P on bare paint, as opposed to over an AIO, results in greater longevity/durability. None whatsoever. When I post about how long the stuff last for me...citing timeframes that some find unbelievable, it`s *always* applied over top of something.

Just let any underlying product dry/cure/whatever it does before applying the Fk1000P as its solvents *can* mess with stuff if you don`t wait...can even mess with previous applications of FK1000P.
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Good info to share...
 
If your car has stayed in really good shape, then I`d be hesitant to change anything. Having used KIO so much, you have that product figured out, and you`re likely getting the most out of it. That being said, if you`d like a change just for fun, to "see what would happen", I agree to forgo an aio and go mild polish then 1000.
 
I am in agreement with Accumulator. For me KAIO is one of the those staple products I will keep on hand as long as they make it. I know there are others out there that are similar but I have not found anything I lake as much yet except for maybe the new CarPro Essense. But I have only used it a few times and it`s not quite the same.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions. What I liked about the KAIO is its low aggressiveness. It is a 1 on the Autopia Polish Comparison chart. I like that, I don`t need an aggressive polisher for what I`m doing.

Comments on the suggestions above:

Essence - seems designed for their ceramic coatings
Sonax - does not seem to have a wax
HD Speed AIO - sounds like a good alternative, a 2 on the scale
Pinnacle - no wax
DG 501 - not on the chart, but sounds like a good alternative, not sure of its aggressiveness
Finish Kare 215 cleaner and sealant, a 2 on the chart. Since I`m using FK100p, might these work well together?

So, I`m still leaning to the KAIO, but any more feedback on DG501, HD Speed of the FK215 would be appreciated.
 
valleyguy1 said:
Essence - seems designed for their ceramic coatings

HD Speed AIO - sounds like a good alternative, a 2 on the scale
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One of the things I really like about KAIO is that it is "Acrylic" based. So it works well under sealants and waxes.

CarPro Essence was created as a prep/base for coatings but from my use it works well for coatings and selants. I have not tried waxes over it yet but I don`t see whay it wouldn`t work.

HD Speed has more cut than KAIO for sure. I ahve it and use it. But IMO since its base for protection is Poxey it is more in line with putting a wax over it than a sealant. It does fill well though when paired with the right application method and pad.
 
As long as you don`t need aggressive, I find DG 501 to be a pretty good AIO. It cleans well and lasts reasonably well. Also inexpensive and available locally at most NAPA`s.
 
KAIO has always been functionally nonabrasive for me, though the testing can get a little tricky as it has those cleaners (I generally test on soft single stage paint and exterior plastics).

[EDIT: I do recall how some Rotary-Meister, testing with a glossmeter, said that using KAIO after a Ultimate Burnishing resulted in a decrease in gloss. Never seen it on anything myself, but did want to mention it.]

So nobody here uses Autoglym Super Resin Polish, huh? That`s the third (of three) AIO I keep on the shelf. OK, it stains trim and is dusty...but I still like it.
 
E-Jag said:
As long as you don`t need aggressive, I find DG 501 to be a pretty good AIO. It cleans well and lasts reasonably well. Also inexpensive and available locally at most NAPA`s.
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Exactly, I don`t need aggressive. Any experience how it compares with KAIO?
 
valleyguy, it has been a looong time since I used KAIO but I was impressed with it, don`t know what post-VOC changes may have been made to it, if any. Can`t really answer you. I`ve been using 501 for years now (I pretty much stick with DG, Collinite and Megs products) and on paint that`s in pretty fair shape with just minor marring it`s great to use before applying your LSP.
 
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