Remove wax before clay??

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I've found ,depending on the last step product that is on the car, Dawn may or may not totally remove it. Some here may use a decontamination 3 step wash such as Valugard's A-B-C system and clay during the middle step during a full detail



My approach is to wash as usual, clay using a QD as a lubricant and dry and then start working a panel at a time. I wipe down the newly clayed panel with Prep-All, a wax removing solvent,dab my finger in an isopropyl alcohol and water mixture and press them against the paint making sure I feel some tension or hear them squeak, that way I know there still isn't anything on the paint. Once that is a go, I begin my polishing regimen.
 
Bill D,



Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't polishing (abrasive and cleaner) remove any protective products that are on the paint?
 
for my personal preferance, if i'm worried about the wax not coming off completely to provide a clean base for the new wax, i use alcohol to remove the old wax.
 
TW85 HHI said:
Bill D,



Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't polishing (abrasive and cleaner) remove any protective products that are on the paint?



I don't jump right into the polishing process because I want to inspect the condition of the paint without the sealant /wax first.
 
gto78 said:
for my personal preferance, if i'm worried about the wax not coming off completely to provide a clean base for the new wax, i use alcohol to remove the old wax.



Wait! What?!?! Correct me if I'm wrong guys but alcohol is going to harm the finish. :nono I would wait on the alcohol until someone responds. I'm not a master detailer in any way shape or form, but acohol on the finish just sounds like disaster waiting to happen.
 
For me it depends on what I'm trying to accomplish. I generally clay so gently that it won't compromise my LSP. If you want to use the clay on contamination that's *under* the LSP this won't work. I don't just "clay harder", IMO clay shouldn't be used aggressively. If the LSP is "dead" this isn't an issue, you can just clay normally and you'll clay off the degraded remnants of the LSP along with the other contamination.



Whether I cut through my LSP with polish or use a solvent (like the alcohol mix or PrepSol or whatever) will depend on the job. If there's still a good layer of LSP on there I'll use the solvent.

Using a mild polish on a healthy LSP (e.g., 3M PI-III MG on KSG) can result in a bit of a mess, including residue that does *not* wipe off very easily. Not a huge problem, but a hassle nonetheless.
 
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