quick details vs duster

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Nebraskaz71

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Hey I do a lot of shows in the summer and last year my paint ended up lookin like crap by the end of the season from my california duster that i used at shows. Lots and lots of swirls. Half way through the season i gave up on the duster and began just using meguiars quick detailer at shows with a diaper and i'd go around the truck to get the dust once an hr and spray/wipe it down. That saved on a lot of swirls. My question is does it affect anything to do like 5-10 wipe downs on the truck at one show. Basically does a buildup of quickdetail stuff affect anything? I think i'll be using mostly 425 or meguiars quick detail this year. thanks
 
Depending on which one you use (most), there's not much protection in there. You should be fine. That sure is alot of wipe downs though, I would figure 3 max and that would be pushing it. Are these show's indoor or outdoor?
 
Yeah I agree California Car duster is bad news. Dust should always be wet before touching it.

I think you should be ok if you dampen the paint liberally (and the towel) before wiping down.

Make sure to flip the towel with each downward pass. I like waffle weave for this function.



If youre going to shows often youre probably washing often too? I use a sea sponge and stay away from all prickly MF towels. When drying the car I first hit the whole car and the waffle with an OTC quick detailer to maximize lubrication.



teh 425 should help, I had it on after waxing with S100 on a windy day and the paint stayed clean.
 
I know its really bad but i have to use a do it yourself pressure washer at a car wash. I live on a farm out in the country and we dont have soft water so I can't wash the truck at my house so i drive 15 mins to use a pressure washer :( I do use waffle weaves to dry though :)



I just bought a pc and tons of products so i'm prepared more this year even though i gotta stick to pressure washers :(
 
one other thing you want to consider, NOT using a diaper to wipe down your paint. Diapers have no "nap" to them llike a terry towel or a "plush" microfiber towel. The nap is what picks up the dust particles and keeps them from swirling up your paint. While diapers are soft they are also very flat so you end up just pushing the dust around as opposed to "picking it up" off the paint. In my opinion i would pick up two nice thick terry towels from JC Penney, Target, Walmart and use those instead of a diaper, it will really help in reducing swirls.
 
no brand in particular. I stick to 100% cotton terry, whatever feels nice, thick & plush and is on sale at the above mentioned stores. I do cut off the tag. They really do last a long time, I've had some for years without showing signs of wear & tear (then again i dont do this professionally) and I simply prefer a thick cotton towel to the microfibers.



Check out the paper see who is having a towel sale. Oh another good place to check is sears. Personally i think JC Penney & Sears have the nicer ones while Walmart or Target have the less expensive ones (we're only talking a $2-$5 difference).
 
I found some on pakshak that say ultra plus for like 6 bucks :) Should i be using those to remove wax too instead of the diapers? I've always been told diapers were the best but heck this site is teaching me a whole new experience :)
 
same deal with wax removal, stick to something with a "nap". diapers ok for rims, interior work, windows anything that won't get swirled up. I won't even use a diaper on the tinted side of windows. I have my collection of towels then I buy the "rags in a bag" deal from a online supplier. These are just a bunch of factory disgard t-shirts usually torn in half. I get a 40lb bag for like $20-30 bucks and those i can just use and toss if they get real dirty. Most of the time they can be used 2-3 times. Because they are so cheap i dont mind just tossing them
 
Thanks the diapers i have are like 1" thick heavy things that friend of mine gets from a hi-temp dealer locally. Would it work to use a waffle weave for the quick detailing wipe downs at shows? I need to order a few more of those anyways.
 
I don't know. I have a nice base of sealant and carnauba (WG+FMJGLAZE+FMJ+RMG+Souveran x2) right now. I have used the Cali Duster since last Wednesday every evening and then detail with Pinnacle Brilliance. No issues. Checked it in high sun and no damage. I also have been doing the same with the wife's car (FMJGLAZE+FMJ+ FK425) and same goes. These are both dark cars too. I just redressed the tires yesterday with Z16 and it looks like i just washed it. I guess it may be a combo of the amount of dust, base product build up, and technique. MIght also help that we've had no rain and that they're garaged from like 4pm-7am
 
Nebraskaz71 said:
I found some on pakshak that say ultra plus for like 6 bucks :) Should i be using those to remove wax too instead of the diapers? I've always been told diapers were the best but heck this site is teaching me a whole new experience :)
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You will get an Autopian discount if you mention it. The Ultra Plush are great for QDing. The Ultra Smooth good for polish, wax, glaze, sealant removal, also great for interior work, and glass. The Ultra Fines also great for polish, wax, glaze, sealant removal. WWs are for drying, but some people use them for polish, wax, glaze, sealant removal. Ranney has some nice WWs dedicated for glass.
 
Nebraskaz71,



When you say you're using a pressure wash, are you using a bucket and mit as well? If not, I'd say that's a major source of your marring . . . pressure washes do well at getting the "big" stuff off paint, but it seems there's always a fine film of dirt that hangs in there. Drying with that last bit of dirt still present is a good way to introduce scratches, even if you are using good towels. If you absolutely can't bucket wash at the spray bay, consider using a quick detailer during the drying phase to try to provide some lubrication . . . I've done this in a pinch, and found it's better to use "terry" type MF towels rather than waffle weaves (they have better nap to pull dirt away from the surface). Rather than just drying the car, treat it as a "wet" QD-session. Spray each panel before wiping, turn the towel to a new side (or grab a new towel) whenever it gets soiled, and do a final wipe with a clean, dry towel.



Hi-temp in Omaha has a pretty decent selection of MF towels these days (I was just there last week, and they've really expanded their inventory).



Also, if you'd like to try QEW (similar to the Optimum No-Rinse mentioned above), I've got the better part of a half-gallon left. PM me if you'd like a sample, and we'll meet up sometime.



Tort
 
Thanks for the info :) I was lookin into that no rinse stuff and you still have to add water so i'm wonderin how much affect my super hard water will have.............. all i have at my house is a sandpoint so the water is really really bad
 
Nebraskaz71 said:
Thanks for the info :) I was lookin into that no rinse stuff and you still have to add water so i'm wonderin how much affect my super hard water will have.............. all i have at my house is a sandpoint so the water is really really bad
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With QEW or No-Rinse, you wash a panel (or section of a panel), and dry immediately, so there shouldn't chance for water spots to form. I only use a couple of gallons for a QEW wash . . . if your water is so bad that QEW or No-Rinse don't work well for some other reason, a couple of gallons of distilled water is < $2.00 from Hy-Vee. Kind of a pain to have to buy gallons to wash with, but OTOH, it's cheaper than a coin-op pressure wash.



Just a thought,

Tort
 
TortoiseAWD said:
With QEW or No-Rinse, you wash a panel (or section of a panel), and dry immediately, so there shouldn't chance for water spots to form. I only use a couple of gallons for a QEW wash . . . if your water is so bad that QEW or No-Rinse don't work well for some other reason, a couple of gallons of distilled water is < $2.00 from Hy-Vee. Kind of a pain to have to buy gallons to wash with, but OTOH, it's cheaper than a coin-op pressure wash.



Just a thought,

Tort
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Or just buy a 5 gallon jug and get water from the machine at the hy-vee. Should be less then a dollar for 5 gallons.
 
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