Quick Detailers that are OK to use with Klasse SG?

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So, i've been carefully reading all the threads here about quick detailers and what can be used with Klasse SG (keeping in mind that I intend I have two layers on now, and want to add a few more layers for protection and durability). I understand that I can't use any detailers with Caruba, and I can't use detailers with Silicones. I know that several of you mentioned Meguair's Final Inspection. I will order some of that product next time I'm getting a shipment of detailing stuff. But, in the meantime, are there consumer products (like the ones I can get at PEP BOYS) that I can use? I already have a bottle of Meguairs Quick Detailer as well as Mother's Showtime. Can I use these? There seems to be some inconsistency in opinions on this issue here at AUTOPIA so I'm not sure how to proceed.
 
~One man’s opinion~



a) Klasse AIO is water-soluble (before it’s cured) 3oz in a 16oz (used / cleaned) spray bottle. Just be aware that it contains a solvent cleaner.



b)Sonus Spritz, it’s made by the same formula as Klasse (avil. Autopia)





~Hope this helps~





Experience unshared; is knowledge wasted…/



~ justadumbarchitect * so i question everything *
 
I have used Mothers Showtime, Eagle one Wet Wipe and Shine, Megs Quick detailer, and Megs Final Inspection. All of these worked well with no problems. They don't have carnuba in them but Final Inspection is the only one I know of that doesn't contain silicone, it is body shop safe.
 
stevet said:
I have used Mothers Showtime, Eagle one Wet Wipe and Shine, Megs Quick detailer, and Megs Final Inspection. All of these worked well with no problems. They don't have carnuba in them but Final Inspection is the only one I know of that doesn't contain silicone, it is body shop safe.
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stevet,



I have to disagree with this. Mothers showtime and Megs Quick detailer do have trace amounts of carnuba in them. They were specifically made for use with both company's respective carnuba waxes to rejuvinate the wax layer between applications.



You are correct about FI and E1. Neither contain carnuba.





In general,



I personally do not believe in the whole concept of QD'ing. The less you touch your car, the less chance of putting any micro-marring in it, even when using quality MF's on a just washed surface. JMHO...





Uncle,



If you really want to get your hands on a non-carnuba, locally sold QD try the eagle one. As mentioned it has no carnuba in it and can be bought at pep-boys and the like.



Bill.
 
BillNorth,



I was told by Megs customer support that Quick detailer does not contain carnuba. You may be right, I am just going on what they told me. Either way I have used it with Klasse and had no problems.



I sent a PM to Forrest a while ago and asked him if Show time contained carnuba, he said it didn't. Again I have used this with Klasse and had no problems.
 
Steve, very interesting. Thanks for sharing.



In my experience, both QD's have streaked in the same manner as other carnuba based qd's I have used. I remember discussing this topic ages ago with some other members. At the time we were led to believe both did contain carnuba.



I believe forrest. Meguiars reps on the other hand offer to much conflicting info to be taken seriously (excluding mike - I wonder what he knows about the QD?).



As for using them with klasse, I see no problem either. *If* either product does have carnuba it would be so minimal that a wash or 2 day wait would probably get rid of it.\



Anyway, thanks again.



Bill.
 
The Uncle said:
Thanks guy, this is all very helpful.



Bill, just so you know, your instructions on applying SG were really quite helpful, and gave me great results.
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Uncle,



That's great to hear!!! Another success story!!!



Gald to be of help!



:xyxthumbs
 
Quik Shine contains no carnauba or silicones, so it should work just fine. I just put Klasse on the wife's car a few weeks ago and weather conditions haven't allowed me to test it.
 
I think I got my final inspection at pep boys or somewhere . I know I got it locally. Try looking up local retailers on meguiars web site. By the way I've been using FI on Klasse with no problem.
 
forrest said:
It does contain silicone, as do most other QD's. Silicone isn't a bad word, as long as the proper type is used.
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OK, this newbie is confused. I thought the issue was that you couldn't use a detailer on SG that included either Canuba or Silicones? And, is it really true that MOST detailers include silicones?
 
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~One man’s opinion~



Owners / detailers who use synthetic polymers often use Carnauba wax as their finishing coat to add colour and depth to the paint surface.



You cannot put a polymer resin on top of Carnauba wax they are not compatible (they won’t bond) But you can use a QD that contains Carnauba wax on a polymer resin base.



I can’t comment on ‘most QD contain silicones’ but not all silicones are bad, it’s the petroleum distillates in Dimethyl Silicone that are environmentally unsound, as well as the fact they attract dirt and dust to the surface they’re applied to. Silicones are formulated to bond to most anything, including Carnauba wax or polymer resins.











>Hope this helps<









Experience unshared; is knowledge wasted…/



justadumbarchitect * so i question everything*
 
TOGWT said:
Quote: Quick Detailers that are OK to use with Klasse SG?







~One man’s opinion~



Owners / detailers who use synthetic polymers often use Carnauba wax as their finishing coat to add colour and depth to the paint surface.



You cannot put a polymer resin on top of Carnauba wax they are not compatible (they won’t bond) But you can use a QD that contains Carnauba wax on a polymer resin base.



I can’t comment on ‘most QD contain silicones’ but not all silicones are bad, it’s the petroleum distillates in Dimethyl Silicone that are environmentally unsound, as well as the fact they attract dirt and dust to the surface they’re applied to. Silicones are formulated to bond to most anything, including Carnauba wax or polymer resins.











>Hope this helps<









Experience unshared; is knowledge wasted…/



justadumbarchitect * so i question everything*
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Here are my specific questions:



Will a QD with silicones cause any problems with the existing layers of SG that are already on the car?



Will a QD with silicones cause problems for the layers of SG that I later want to add? I figure to add another layer every few months.



Sorry to be dense here, but us newbies thirst for info!
 
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