Quick Detailer for Carnuba
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Lazzman
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Have to chekc out the Aquawax.
So far the Sonus and FK425 are the lead suggested detailers, with OQD a close second. The optimum sounds like really good stuff.
The Blackfire QD with Polycharger, works excellent and a little goes a long way, I use it exclusively over Black Fire paint protectant, leaves an incredible clarity to the paint- mirror like.
Though I am looking for something that will give the black paint some warmth and depth, that is why I apply high grade Carnuba over my sealant.
For $20 delivered for 31oz the FK425 sounds like a really great deal, Sonus is $16 + shipping for 16oz, could it be that much better? Others swear by the slick and slippery finish of Optimum.
Still mulling it over, don't have a ton to spend on detailers at the moment. :sosad
So far the Sonus and FK425 are the lead suggested detailers, with OQD a close second. The optimum sounds like really good stuff.
The Blackfire QD with Polycharger, works excellent and a little goes a long way, I use it exclusively over Black Fire paint protectant, leaves an incredible clarity to the paint- mirror like.
Though I am looking for something that will give the black paint some warmth and depth, that is why I apply high grade Carnuba over my sealant.
For $20 delivered for 31oz the FK425 sounds like a really great deal, Sonus is $16 + shipping for 16oz, could it be that much better? Others swear by the slick and slippery finish of Optimum.
Still mulling it over, don't have a ton to spend on detailers at the moment. :sosad
Accumulator
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BlackSunshine- Continuing our Adams/Griot's discussion from the other thread, how would you compare/contrast the two QDs? Feel free to split hairs 
Very faint pseudo-holograms when used over (very well-cured) Collinite. No biggie but it was a lesson that the QS isn't utterly idiot-proof the way some other QDs are.
The FK425 caused *SERIOUS* pseudo-holograms, also on (not so well-cured, but rather pretty freshly applied) 476S. And I mean *serious*. But that was a weird situation with severely compromised clearcoat- lots of pitting and micro-fissures. I suspect the FK425 did a solvent-action on the excess wax that was in the pitting/etc. Only time it's ever happened but it sure was frustrating.
Dsoto87 said:
Very faint pseudo-holograms when used over (very well-cured) Collinite. No biggie but it was a lesson that the QS isn't utterly idiot-proof the way some other QDs are.
The FK425 caused *SERIOUS* pseudo-holograms, also on (not so well-cured, but rather pretty freshly applied) 476S. And I mean *serious*. But that was a weird situation with severely compromised clearcoat- lots of pitting and micro-fissures. I suspect the FK425 did a solvent-action on the excess wax that was in the pitting/etc. Only time it's ever happened but it sure was frustrating.
[quote name='Accumulator']BlackSunshine- Continuing our Adams/Griot's discussion from the other thread, how would you compare/contrast the two QDs? Feel free to split hairs
Haha, it would be my pleasure. Also, when I get home from my vacation this later this week, I'd like to send you a sample of the Adam's.
When I first tried Speed Shine, I owned a Midnight Blue Metallic GTO. I was using RMG/various carnauba waxes, but mostly Meg's #26 if I recall correctly. I enjoyed how easy it was to use, how quickly it wicked clear, how it seemed a little more substantial than the other thin QD's I had used to that point, the fact that it was carnauba based, and the fact that it didn't seem to add to much of it's own look to the LSP. I didn't care for it on glass, but it worked awesome on wheels and trim. I never use it between layers of sealant as, although the carnauba content is less than 1%, I just don't want to risk the loss of durability. I also haven't had great luck using it as clay lube. Seems like it creates too much of a barrier between the paint and clay to allow the clay to work.
I had already been using the Adam's for a long time before I tried the Speed Shine. The Adam's definitely cleans better in my experience, and it works flawlessly on glass. It's slicker than Speed Shine, too. I believe it is polymer based so it will add some gloss. I like that it works equally well when it's 95 or 45 outside. It wipes clean, with no streaks, every time. I also use it while drying to add some slickness and soak up some of the remaining water droplets. I guess the main reason I like it is that it's fool proof and very versatile.
I have also not had great luck with Clearkote QuikShine (just was never blown away by it) and FK425 I could do without. It seemed like no matter what, I could never get it to wipe completely clean without excess rubbing.
Haha, it would be my pleasure. Also, when I get home from my vacation this later this week, I'd like to send you a sample of the Adam's.
When I first tried Speed Shine, I owned a Midnight Blue Metallic GTO. I was using RMG/various carnauba waxes, but mostly Meg's #26 if I recall correctly. I enjoyed how easy it was to use, how quickly it wicked clear, how it seemed a little more substantial than the other thin QD's I had used to that point, the fact that it was carnauba based, and the fact that it didn't seem to add to much of it's own look to the LSP. I didn't care for it on glass, but it worked awesome on wheels and trim. I never use it between layers of sealant as, although the carnauba content is less than 1%, I just don't want to risk the loss of durability. I also haven't had great luck using it as clay lube. Seems like it creates too much of a barrier between the paint and clay to allow the clay to work.
I had already been using the Adam's for a long time before I tried the Speed Shine. The Adam's definitely cleans better in my experience, and it works flawlessly on glass. It's slicker than Speed Shine, too. I believe it is polymer based so it will add some gloss. I like that it works equally well when it's 95 or 45 outside. It wipes clean, with no streaks, every time. I also use it while drying to add some slickness and soak up some of the remaining water droplets. I guess the main reason I like it is that it's fool proof and very versatile.
I have also not had great luck with Clearkote QuikShine (just was never blown away by it) and FK425 I could do without. It seemed like no matter what, I could never get it to wipe completely clean without excess rubbing.
Accumulator
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BlackSunshine- Thanks for the additional info. Our views of SpeedShine sure are in agreement. Oddly enough, I've never had any trouble with FK425, and...well, you know how low my "user-unfriendliness tolerance" is!
You also know how much QD I (still) have on-hand, but yeah, that Adam's stuff *does* sound interesting.
Have a good vacation!
You also know how much QD I (still) have on-hand, but yeah, that Adam's stuff *does* sound interesting.
Have a good vacation!
Saintlysins
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This thread came at a great time. I'm getting less and less happy with the Poor Boys QD over P21s. If I need to QD a well cured carnuba that's been prepped for a show ... Poor Boys is outstanding!! However, it seems it can only be used once or it will leave slight fogginess ... few people see it, but I tend to visually dissect the depth of the paint and I see it. 
The third time and it's more apparent. :angry
I know it's got a tons of clay particles in it and I've got to shake the bottle for 5 min's before none of it is stuck on the bottom of the bottle and I 'assume' the old applications are affected by the new applications and causing the fogging.
I liked Speed Shine, but as BLACKSUNSHINE stated, you have to be careful not to get any over spray on glass or matte/flat painted trim. I have a bunch of older QD's in the back of a bottom cabinet shelf that I think I'll start experimenting with again, but after reading this ... I think I may try the Adams.
I like reading posts where I can identify with the writer and have shared their experiences. Makes it easier to trust their advice.
Thanks BLACKSUNSHINE & ACCUMULATOR!
(That is - thanks for getting me to spend more money and not clean-out that bottom shelf! )
The third time and it's more apparent. :angry
I know it's got a tons of clay particles in it and I've got to shake the bottle for 5 min's before none of it is stuck on the bottom of the bottle and I 'assume' the old applications are affected by the new applications and causing the fogging.
I liked Speed Shine, but as BLACKSUNSHINE stated, you have to be careful not to get any over spray on glass or matte/flat painted trim. I have a bunch of older QD's in the back of a bottom cabinet shelf that I think I'll start experimenting with again, but after reading this ... I think I may try the Adams.
I like reading posts where I can identify with the writer and have shared their experiences. Makes it easier to trust their advice.
Thanks BLACKSUNSHINE & ACCUMULATOR!
(That is - thanks for getting me to spend more money and not clean-out that bottom shelf!
)brianshaeffer
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I really like Chemical Guys Pro-Detailer w/Carnuba on carnubas. I'd rate it as nearly as good a Pinnacle Crystal Mist. At $23.00 per gallon, it's also cheap.