Question on NXT bonding.

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bjackson8

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One week ago, I put a coat of NXT on my car. The car is a 2005 Honda Accord, that has had #16 on it since it was purchased 3 months ago (applied approx every 3 weeks).



The NXT liquid was applied via PC on a blue propel pad, I assumed that the cleaners in the NXT would take care of the remaining #16. I was very impressed with the gloss and slickness of the NXT, it was better than I expected.



Today, after 2 days of heavy rain, I did a QD on the car and the gloss and slickness are almost completely gone. It feels like it hasn't been waxed in months.



Could this be caused by trying to put the NXT on top of the #16? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
bjackson8 said:
One week ago, I put a coat of NXT on my car. The car is a 2005 Honda Accord, that has had #16 on it since it was purchased 3 months ago (applied approx every 3 weeks).



The NXT liquid was applied via PC on a blue propel pad, I assumed that the cleaners in the NXT would take care of the remaining #16. I was very impressed with the gloss and slickness of the NXT, it was better than I expected.



Today, after 2 days of heavy rain, I did a QD on the car and the gloss and slickness are almost completely gone. It feels like it hasn't been waxed in months.



Could this be caused by trying to put the NXT on top of the #16? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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YES!



The "cleaners" in NXT are very slight and really only there to help the NXT bond to the paint. I would try some Klasse AIO to remove everything including the #16, then reapply the NXT. You can top the NXT with the #16 after ~ 24 hours.



Sealants in general don't bond well to carnauba's and that's probably the reason the NXT now seems to be MIA.
 
Megs claims that all their products are compatible so it may or may not be a bonding problem? have you used non megs QD's over the 16? or possibly its a carwash issue leaving a film on the NXT
 
Thanks for the replies.



I have a strong feeling it was the wax under it.



I'm going to give it a good wash in the morning, and then wipe it down with prepsol. Then try the NXT again.



I really loved the first impressions of this wax, but a week just isn't going to cut it in the durability department.



The car is Graphite pearl (dark grey metalic), and the NXT was by far the best looking wax so far. (Compared to #16 & #26). Any suggestions for other products that look good on this color would be greatly appreciated.
 
Polymers are best on clean paint. Perhaps ,even though Meg's claims complete compatability between products, it is still a matter of water on oil. The NXT had nothing to bond to. The basic makeup of the polymers meant that the NXT couldnt get a good grip on the waxed surface.:xyxthumbs
 
wannafbody said:
Megs claims that all their products are compatible so it may or may not be a bonding problem?
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I believe the compatiblity is that their LSPs bond well to their polishes and glazes. I don't think they have NXT over #16 in mind when they say Meguiars products work well together.



I've found that AIO is an excellent base for NXT.
 
wannafbody said:
Megs claims that all their products are compatible so it may or may not be a bonding problem? have you used non megs QD's over the 16? or possibly its a carwash issue leaving a film on the NXT
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NXT is a polymer, #16 is a wax.... they do not crosslink. Oil and water..... (best analogy) What Auopian goes through a carwash ? That is a horrible way to treat a cherished vehicle .... :rolleyes:
 
mochamanz said:
NXT is a polymer, #16 is a wax.... they do not crosslink. Oil and water..... (best analogy) What Auopian goes through a carwash ? That is a horrible way to treat a cherished vehicle .... :rolleyes:
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Due to the fact that I live in an apartment, I go throught the car was often. But ahead of time I fill two buckets with water and add my zaino soap to one. I throw two mits in the rinse bucket and put the stuff in my trunk. I then use the car wash for their rinse water only...:up
 
My experience with NXT was much improved when I layed it on top of AIO. Slickness lasted longer. I'm a big beleiver that a sealant needs proper paint preparation to take advantage of thier durability. My routine now involves AIO as a step in between a polish and the sealant.



When I'm lazy I forgoe the sealant and add a layer of #16. I'll re-wax with 16 in 3 or 4 weeks. Eventually I find the time to start over again.



George
 
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