Question for new paint!

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tricycle

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I will send my car to the body shop for repairing due to an accident. The bumper would replace and paint new; however, it is snowing in Canada here, all kinds of crap are embedded in the snow. So, what is the best way to protect the new paint on my bumper? I know the new paint needs at least 90 days to cure. Do you think I should apply the Klasse sealant to protect the new paint for this kind of cold weather?



Thanks for your inputs!
 
You cannot seal fresh paint until it is completely cured. Sealing it now can result in permanently soft paint. Meguiars #80 Speed Glaze has a breathable polymer in it that is fresh paint safe and will offer some protection while still allowing the paint to cure.
 
Meguiars #5 glaze is safe for new paint and offers a bit of protection, though you will have to keep re-applying it.



Finish Kare claims their 2180 sealant is safe within a few days and allows outgassing so the paint can finish curing. I believe they don't claim this about their other LSPs like PW or 1000P. I'm not saying they're right or wrong, use your own judgement whether you want to believe their claims.
 
velobard said:
Meguiars #5 glaze is safe for new paint and offers a bit of protection, though you will have to keep re-applying it.



Finish Kare claims their 2180 sealant is safe within a few days and allows outgassing so the paint can finish curing. I believe they don't claim this about their other LSPs like PW or 1000P. I'm not saying they're right or wrong, use your own judgement whether you want to believe their claims.
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I used 2180 on our van on fresh paint (5 days old)
 
Optimum Car Wax is supposed to be new car safe but I am going to check with David @ Optimum first to be on the safe side.
 
tdekany said:
I used 2180 on our van on fresh paint (5 days old)
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How's your paint doing now? I used it on my paint at 3 weeks because we had a nasty winter storm coming our way a couple months ago. I haven't really done much with it since except a few rounds of ONR but all seems well so far.
 
My Subaru will be back this weekend after having the tail gate and bumper replaced from a rear impact.

I too would like to know what is safe to use. There is at least 2 months more of this winter to go :( 2180 sounds promising.
 
Scottwax said:
You cannot seal fresh paint until it is completely cured. Sealing it now can result in permanently soft paint. Meguiars #80 Speed Glaze has a breathable polymer in it that is fresh paint safe and will offer some protection while still allowing the paint to cure.
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Good, I good the #80 at home, but should I use the PC or hand to apply. How many layers of polymer (#80) should I apply and what is the sitting time for each layer?



Thanks.
 
velobard said:
I'm not saying they're right or wrong, use your own judgement whether you want to believe their claims.
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I just wanted to restate the disclaimer I wrote before. Someone should do a side-by-side, long-term test on this stuff to see how it affects paint hardness on new paint.
 
in my experience the abrasives in #80 can have too much initial bite for *some* (not many, but some) fresh paints. Never had any problem after a month or so of curing though. I just use the #5. It's about the most user-friendly product there is, so reapplying after every wash isn't all that big a pain. The Deep Crystal step #2 polish is similar, and available everywhere.



No point in trying to "layer" #80 as the abrasives just clean away whatever the previous application left behind. I've always thought you *can* layer #5, but there's a definite diminishing returns aspect and you'll still have to reapply after the next wash.
 
velobard said:
How's your paint doing now? I used it on my paint at 3 weeks because we had a nasty winter storm coming our way a couple months ago. I haven't really done much with it since except a few rounds of ONR but all seems well so far.
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seems to be just fine.
 
tricycle said:
Good, I good the #80 at home, but should I use the PC or hand to apply. How many layers of polymer (#80) should I apply and what is the sitting time for each layer?



Thanks.
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Just apply via PC to polish out the repainted areas, odds are they won't be autopian perfect, then after each wash or two, apply with a foam hand pad until time to wax.
 
I just got mine back from the shop after getting sideswiped ... problem is the weather isn't allowing me to do much... temps well below zero this weekend and high of around 10 :(
 
It is minus 10 here today, my other car already changed the color from black to white due to the road salt. It is true that having new paint during the winter time is a pain!
 
My only recommendation would be that if you can find a friend's garage where it's above freezing and he won't mind you getting some water on the floor, give it a good ONR wash. You can always offer to mop up most of the mess, and maybe offer to wash off his car for good measure.



Yes, we're supposed to wait to put anything on fresh paint, but if you can find a place like that to work on your car, try to give it some protection. A couple months ago I decided to go ahead and put 3 coats of 2180 on my 3 week old paint when I found out we had a major winter storm headed our way. If not that, you can at least use some decent glaze like #5.
 
I keep chickening out on using the FK 2180 on fresh paint :o FWIW, I always seem to have some paintwork done during the winter (just my luck) and the #5 works OK, seems to protect OK if I wash (and reapply) regularly. Sure not the same as having Collinite on it though!
 
Accumulator, I'd probably take an approach more like your's if my circumstances were similar. I have no garage and I have one car as my daily driver (though I will be getting my old beater back on the street soon). Right now my car is coated with dried salt and not going to be above freezing for several more days. I just got home from checking another tunnel wash and they're closed due to the cold weather.



There's a lot of positives about the home we moved into last year; good schools, view of the park, bedrooms for all the kids, walking distance to just about everything, upscale historic neighborhood, but the next time I move a garage goes to the top of the "must have" list! ;)



Speaking of warmer weather, I just received my Metabo in the mail today. :woohoo: I can hardly wait for a chance to try it out. My beater may sacrifice it's paint for my rotary education, lol.
 
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