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I've noticed that when I QD with some QD Spray and a MF towel that it usually leaves behind these little tiny white specks. My car is black so upclose I can really notice them. The specks are small.



Anyone know why this happens, how I can prevent it and what is causing it?



Thanks
 
Hi matthew,



Those "little tiny white specks" are actually fiber traces off of the mf towel. Sometimes when you use a mf towel with any type of liquid (QD) that comes in contact with a dry surface. The motion of wiping causes friction between the surface and the mf towel which causes the fiber traces to be seen. I personally, spray the QD on the surface and my initial wipe with the mf towel is in one direction (front to back) to remove any light dust. Then, I follow-up with another mf towel as a final wipe to get the paint real glossy and smooth. Because the surface is now smooth after the initial wipe with the QD there should be no friction with your final wipe which should leave little to none of the fiber traces.



If your cleaning your car windows with a mf towel, I would recommend using the less plusher side of the mf towel. I found the best results for myself would be to fold the mf towel in quarters and on one side lightly mist the mf towel with water then just like QD'ing do your initial wipe of your window and turn the mf towel over and do the final wipe. Sometimes, what I do which also works great is to use two 16" x 16" mf towels to clean my windows. First, spray one with water then wipe your window and then follow-up with your other dry mf towel for the final wipe. The trick here is to use the less plusher side because it has less nap so it is easier to clean your windows.

For best results, do one window at a time before moving on to the next. You wouldn't want the water to dry on the window before your final wipe.



I hope that helps.



With Aloha,

~Ranney
 
PakShak said:
Hi matthew,



Those "little tiny white specks" are actually fiber traces off of the mf towel. Sometimes when you use a mf towel with any type of liquid (QD) that comes in contact with a dry surface. The motion of wiping causes friction between the surface and the mf towel which causes the fiber traces to be seen. I personally, spray the QD on the surface and my initial wipe with the mf towel is in one direction (front to back) to remove any light dust. Then, I follow-up with another mf towel as a final wipe to get the paint real glossy and smooth. Because the surface is now smooth after the initial wipe with the QD there should be no friction with your final wipe which should leave little to none of the fiber traces.

I hope that helps.



With Aloha,

~Ranney
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Thanks Ranney. The MF Towels I am using are from you BTW.



While the method you descrivbe might work, the spots that I had to remove were more than dust. They required lots of back and fourth to finally remove them. They did come off, but like I said left the fiber traces.



Is there anyway to avoid this when I have a spot I need to remove which requires going back and fourth and working it out?



Also in what surface are these fiber traces being lodged in? How do I go about removing them?



Thanks for your help.
 
Hi matthew



Cool! I know there is a static charge that is created between the mf towel and the surface of your car when wiping fast enough. This could also lead to the fiber traces. Try to slow down your initial wipe and follow-up with the final wipe soon afterwards. See if this helps. The fiber traces is actually loose micro fiber filaments that are coming off of the mf towel. With enough friction caused by a static charge it will lift the micro fiber filament and be pulled away from the mf towel.



Also, how did you wash and dry your mf towels? For best results I like to line dry my micro fiber towels. I have noticed that when the mf towel is line dried, it actually causes less to no static charge when wiping.



With Aloha,

~Ranney



:)
 
matthew said:
the spots that I had to remove were more than dust. They required lots of back and fourth to finally remove them. They did come off, but like I said left the fiber traces.



Is there anyway to avoid this when I have a spot I need to remove which requires going back and fourth and working it out?
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Matthew:

Two things come to mind.

1. Maybe the white specks were there before you used the QD. If they are actully being "lodged" in the paint surface of your vehicle, it sounds like more than jusr MF residue. Overspray from somewhere you have been?

2. If you have to rub hard and a lot to remove an area of dirt, you may need to use something other than a QD. IMO, QD's are just for light surface dust, not a substitute for washing.



Charles :wavey
 
CharlesW said:
2. If you have to rub hard and a lot to remove an area of dirt, you may need to use something other than a QD. IMO, QD's are just for light surface dust, not a substitute for washing.



Charles :wavey
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I use that when I have some spot or stain or droppings or any other little thing that I need to remove but not wash the whole car. What should I use instead if I need to "work" something off instead of a QD spray?



Also, how did you wash and dry your mf towels? For best results I like to line dry my micro fiber towels.
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I wash them with warm water in the washing machine and tide, then put them in the dryer with no heat and run that to dry them.



Maybe I should try line drying them.



Thanks all.
 
I notice QD drys pretty fast after you spray it on the car. If you are not quick enough to wipe or do too big of an area then the QD will dry fast. You will have to scrub hard to get rid of that mist. That is the only thing I can think of. Do this, Work in a small area about 1 foot by 1 foot and as soon as you spray, tackle that QD with the MF towel and rub pretty hard. You should have an extravagant surface.





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Matthew:

If what you are working on is a build up or spot that won't just clean off with a spray & wipe, I would spray enough QD to soak the bird crap or whtever until it starts to break up. You could soak it with some water. Just don't try to "scrub" your paint with a QD.

My MF's, I wash with laundry detergent at about 1/2 the strength the detergent people recommend. I dry them in the dryer on low heat. I do get some static electricity at times, but it has never seemed to be any problem. (MF's are Pak Shak)



Knight:

What you say about doing a small section at a time is very good advice. My personal feeling is that you shouldn't have to rub hard to remove the QD. When I use QEW, Spray & Wipe, or any QD, my towels and MF's have very light contact with the paint surface. Works for me, but probably not for everyone.



Charles
 
If you have trouble with wiping off QD because it's started to dry, you are either trying to QD a hot surface (:nono ) or are not wiping it off soon enough or well enough. It's never been an issue for me as I just spray QD onto the paint or cloth, and both wipe it around and wipe it off almost at the same time. Flip the cloth over to the dry side to get the last traces off. If you do find QD drying on (like when claying for example) spraying on more QD or just water will re-liquify it.



If something isn't coming off easily with QD I say it's time to move up to something else, like a soap solution or bug & tar remover.



I use moderate pressure at most once in a while. Rubbing "hard" should never be necessary and only invites trouble...
 
4DSC said:
If you have trouble with wiping off QD because it's started to dry, you are either trying to QD a hot surface (:nono ) or are not wiping it off soon enough or well enough.
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I'm not having trouble at all with it drying to fast.
 
I thought that might have been his problem with the "specs" he was talking about. Working in 1 foot by 1 foot is the best. I discovered these specs once, when the wind was blowing and I was trying to cover too much area. The specs would not come off unless I re-sprayed the QD and buffed immediately. Though, I apply pretty hard pressure to the wiping and flip and do a light rub on the dry side. Sort of what 4DSC does. 4DSC, my definition of rubbing hard might be different than yours. When I say rubbing hard, I would define it more as rubbing firmly. Though the last pass like I said, I flip the towel over and rub lightly. Also rubbing fast with rubbing firmly will help make it shine. Also, the MF towels don't scratch the surface, along with the lubbing of QD. I don't apply heavy weight and pressure to the cloth. LOL





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With Quikshine, I can apply it to half my hood and it won't dry before I can wipe it up. Even in the sun, I can do about 1/4th the hood and wipe it before it dries. Amazing stuff!
 
Sounds like the solids on the QD is coming out of solution to me, either by evaporation or reaction to whatever is already on your car (possibly what's in your towel). If an lint from your towel is left upon your car (shouldn't be) it should at least be the color of the towel. I'm guessing your towel isn't white.
 
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