PwS

membim said:
Any news on the Poorboy's Polish with Sealant? I can't wait to try it!!!!!!!!!!
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Well I've got to make a decision to either go with the original version which does limited cleaning, works well on well maintained vehicles, and leaves a really nice slick shine or....

Go with version 2 which has a bit more cleaning ability, can clean a moderately swirled car, but doesn't seem to be as slick or glossy as version 1 or

Make a third version and keep on testing:rolleyes:
 
Well since its going to be marketed as a polish I would prefer the 2nd of the three. alittle more cleaning ability. I've gathered that many apply a wax after they seal. I do as well.
 
Poorboy said:
Well I've got to make a decision to either go with the original version which does limited cleaning, works well on well maintained vehicles, and leaves a really nice slick shine or....

Go with version 2 which has a bit more cleaning ability, can clean a moderately swirled car, but doesn't seem to be as slick or glossy as version 1 or

Make a third version and keep on testing:rolleyes:
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Thanks a bunch for the reply, Steve. I'm really looking forward to trying it. If my two cents are worth two cents, I would want the one that cleans pretty good. Thanks for the info and have a great day!:D
 
Poorboy said:
Well I've got to make a decision to either go with the original version which does limited cleaning, works well on well maintained vehicles, and leaves a really nice slick shine or....

Go with version 2 which has a bit more cleaning ability, can clean a moderately swirled car, but doesn't seem to be as slick or glossy as version 1 or

Make a third version and keep on testing:rolleyes:
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Considering how well your other products work, I think you should go with a third version.
Now, before everyone yells at me.:)
You evidently are not 100% satisfied with version 1 or version 2, right?
If you release a product you aren't satisfied with, you will always be thinking "what if?" thoughts.
Sorry for raining on the parade, but that's my opinion.

Charles
 
Well I've seen version one on a well maintained car (awd330's) and after the dozens of different products i've seen on it , it really had an incredible look.
Her car of course is virtually swirl free, so it only had to clean off previous products. I've seen pictures of version 2 used by rotary and pc and it was pushed far beyond what this one step product or any one step product should really be expected to do. You are not going to get the same results as a multi-step polishing from a one step and if that is your expectation then you will be disappointed for sure. One step products are meant to give reasonable results on poorly maintained cars and good results on well maintained ones.
I think either version at this point will produce these results, but the first version will produce a little better shine and slicker surface. Yes, i will discuss the finding with the chemist and see where he wants to go with it, but don't be surprised if I pick one of the current ones after a little more personal testing and feedback from my current testers. :)
 
I think you'll make the right decision, you have with so many other products.

I think Ver 1 would be more attractive. I used PwC Blue so many times when a customer (or cheap friend getting a freebie) for just that, a quick one step that looked great, even if it left some remaining swirls. For most of the people that would use (or want) a one step, they arent going to look that close, but rather stand back and admire the shine or feel the slick finish.

Im ready for Ver1 whenever you have it.
 
Craigster said:
I think you'll make the right decision, you have with so many other products.

I think Ver 1 would be more attractive. I used PwC Blue so many times when a customer (or cheap friend getting a freebie) for just that, a quick one step that looked great, even if it left some remaining swirls. For most of the people that would use (or want) a one step, they arent going to look that close, but rather stand back and admire the shine or feel the slick finish.

Im ready for Ver1 whenever you have it.
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thanks for the input ...my experience tells me the same:)

91LSMAN said:
I think I have version one and I LOVE it. I did my Legend again with it on Sunday.
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thanks for your inpput too :)
 
I used the second version on a poorly maintained vehicle last Sunday. IT does take care of swirls but not deeper scratches. IT certainly would not satisfy a hard core Detail City member.

The owner of the vehicle that I tried it out on was amazed and pleased. Made short work of a detail by using a one step process. Only one of the before pictures came out. I am going to go an take better after pictures before I post a review. But I will post what I was up against and the end results with out showing how much correction it did attain. Those pictures did not come out at all.

This is what I was dealing with
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Here is a reflection shot. Although it does not show just how well PwS corrected the vehicles paint. Like I said the correction pictures will have to be this weekend. My frend is thirty miles away and I will not see him until Sunday.

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Now a sun shot. It may not be as slick as some products that Poorboy makes. It certainly made this vehicles owner very happy.

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I like both versions. Not counting durability, since i normally add a sealant over the top or a wax, I like the second version better at this time. Also that is not over exposure. That is snow on the ground not bleached concrete.
 
Poorboy said:
Well I've got to make a decision to either go with the original version which does limited cleaning, works well on well maintained vehicles, and leaves a really nice slick shine or....

Go with version 2 which has a bit more cleaning ability, can clean a moderately swirled car, but doesn't seem to be as slick or glossy as version 1 or

Make a third version and keep on testing:rolleyes:
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If you did go with a 3rd version, what would you be going after?

I think a 1 step means many different things -to many people.

IMO, a 1 step would be a final polish/glaze + protection. (i.e. Clean up VERY light marks in the finish and protect)

I've tried dozens of 1 step products, and after you get a pair of 'DC' eyes, they just don't cut it.

You don't have a 'glaze' product. Why not go after a 'glaze & seal' solution? That seems achievable.

I'm not trying to stir the soup...but you did make a DISTINCT difference in S&W and S&G, right? (am I making a case for 'glaze & seal' yet??).


FWIW - I was impressed with the last version of PwS -on my well maintained finish -but I do miss the orange smell :)
 
I would say it was grabby when I used a plusher towel. When I used a less plush towel I found it to be easier. Until you noted it I had no inordinate problems. The plusher towel pulled out of my grip. Changed t owel to less plush...problem solved. Doing a panel at a time with the PC I find that I like to wipe off as I go. Wiping is always easier than holding up the PC.

I also worked it till it was almost dry. Using a LC light cutting Orange pad I stopped when the paint appeared clear moving the PC in one direction and hazy coming back. If that makes any sense to you...?
 
I wish I could say I have tested it, but I haven't... Both versions seem appealing, but each servers a similar purpose! I think V2 seems the best for an All in One for its polishing characteristics, yet V1 seems the best the to enhance prior prep work as well as for an LSP. This comparison reminds me greatly of Clearkote Vanilla Moose and how they just upped its cleaning level and abrasiveness. Anyways no matter the outcome, I am sure it will be a great product like the rest of the Poorboy's line, which I am already greatly fond of.
 
I think you should go with version one. If people need more cut you have dedicated swirl removers for that. I would use version one much the same way I use Klasse AIO. Don't need another swirl remover.
 
mgm2003 said:
If you did go with a 3rd version, what would you be going after?

I think a 1 step means many different things -to many people.
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I think you are right here. This product is not really for those DC members working on their own car looking for perfection. As cwcad stated his friend who is by no means a perfectionist was more than happy with the results and Kirk was more than happy to only have to do one step for such a person.
I believe my aim for this product is the Professional or Hobbyist who is doing someone elses car and looking for a quick way to to remove "some" imperfections and leave a nice shine with a decent glow and slickness.
Probably looking at no more than 2-4 months protection.
As Anthony stated if you want a perfect finish you will need to use swirl removers or more polishing steps. the results of either version on a well maintained car is pretty good and will prep a surface for the addition of either a sealant or wax as a LSP.
By adding more cleaning ability a one step will lose a bit of gloss and durability, by adding more gloss it will lose a little cleaning ability. I find it hard to think further versions will improve in either area, but then again that's for the chemist to tell me:)
 
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