pseudoholograms after removing wax.....

[thedetailer]

I am having a problem with pseudo-holograms after I apply and remove wax. It's happens if I let it dry before taking off the wax or taking if off wet. Also, this is on vehicles that have not been compounded or polished.



I have been told that if I allow it too "cure", the excess oils will either evaporate or harden enough to wipe off....but it is not working that way...



HELP!

 

[stotte20]

this happens to me to if i remove the wax before it dries or on a day that is hummid or wet outside. when it does happen i usally come back over and use a quick detailer and it will remove them. most likley it is just the oils that have not bonded or dried good enough. i always do the fingure swipe test, if it comes clear than its good to wipe off. even though there does seem to be some waxes that do act up here and there.

 

[jfelbab]

Try misting a small spray of water on a clean MF and wipe. This should level the surface and remove the streaks.



Don't over wet the mf, just a lite, fine mist will do.

 

[RaskyR1]

What wax are you using?



I've had this issue a few times with Supernatural when I first tried it.

 

[Kean]

What product(s) are you experiencing this problem with? It sounds like this is happening on multiple cars? What are the conditions/environment where you are applying the product? What are you doing to prep the paint (if anything) prior to applying your wax/sealant?



It could be the environment/conditions, technique, a characteristic of the product itself, something on the paint (i.e. contamination, another product....), etc.

 

[Accumulator]

I too am wondering what wax it is :think:



I've also had issues like this related to whatever products I used *before* the wax, like the wax effected a solvent action on the underlying stuff.



So even a wipe-on-wipe-off approach does it huh? What if you try doing that while fogging the surface with your breath?



Other sorta-random thoughts:

-Too much moisture in applicator

-Working too large an area at a time

-Not "working" the wax enough/putting it on too thick

 

[gigondaz]

.....I've also had issues like this related to whatever products I used *before* the wax, like the wax effected a solvent action on the underlying stuff.



.......-Too much moisture in applicator

-Working too large an area at a time

-Not "working" the wax enough/putting it on too thick

Great comment, Accumulator.

You have a valid point.



Environment.

Certain waxes are more sensitive to draft/air movement (affecting curing), and humidity. Sometimes they're ok, sometimes they leave behind a smudgy stubborn film/haze that could be easily removed or not even budged by quick detailing sprays. IMO, Meg's classic No26 paste wax is such an example. Even washing with Meg's shampoo could not remove the problem completely. In certain weather Meguiars NXT could also be fickle.





What's under the waxThe kind of polish you used, could react adversely with your LSP.

IMO, AG's SRP when topped with certain pure synthetic waxes could be problematic. Find a combo that works in all weather and stick to it.





Applicator - wet or dampThere is a difference. Some LSPs are problematic if applied with a damp applicator.





Interestingly, many carnauba paste waxes such as P21/S100, Dodo Orange, Dodo Blue Velvet, Zymol, and the entire range of Swissvax have never given me these problems.



The worst culprits, based on the brands I've tried, are those attractively packaged Japanese hard waxes by Soft 99. Many types are susceptible to hazing/blurring/smudginess.



As with any LSPs, I will always experiment to discover the optimum application technique that works for me. Different pads, wet/dry pads, thin/thick layer, waiting time, buffing cloths and weather.